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Politics is Failing - Dangerous times ahead.


wedwood

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On foot of today's court ruling striking out the Registered Employment Agreements, which follows the JLCs being struck down a while ago, aided and abetted by politicians doing their employer buddies bidding, are we arriving at a point where the seeds of revolution are being sown ?

Public Sector workers have had enough of austerity as demonstrated by the Croke Park ballot results, Private Sector workers are having their terms and conditions destroyed, such as what happened today in the Courts.

In the meantime, ordinary people are watching the politicians 'saving' the bankers/bondholders et all and there's a growing sense of resentment at the unfairness of what is happening. Throw in all the new taxes etc, there's some stew brewing at the moment.

When the Establishment, (esp politicians) get to a point where they allow or promote such injustices to be perpetrated on ordinary people, people cease to accept that the Establishment has legitimacy.

If someone was to step forward in this climate and call for the Establishment to be taken down because of what they're allowing to happen, would they be left shouting in the wind, or could they mobilise the dis-enfranchised masses ?

Times like these breed revolution (or worse), how much more of this would it take for people to revolt ?

Are we near that point now where we send the politicians packing ?, or will we accept anything that's dumped on us ?

Discuss.
 

b.a. baracus

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On foot of today's court ruling striking out the Registered Employment Agreements, which follows the JLCs being struck down a while ago, aided and abetted by politicians doing their employer buddies bidding, are we arriving at a point where the seeds of revolution are being sown ?

Public Sector workers have had enough of austerity as demonstrated by the Croke Park ballot results, Private Sector workers are having their terms and conditions destroyed, such as what happened today in the Courts.

In the meantime, ordinary people are watching the politicians 'saving' the bankers/bondholders et all and there's a growing sense of resentment at the unfairness of what is happening. Throw in all the new taxes etc, there's some stew brewing at the moment.

When the Establishment, (esp politicians) get to a point where they allow or promote such injustices to be perpetrated on ordinary people, people cease to accept that the Establishment has legitimacy.

If someone was to step forward in this climate and call for the Establishment to be taken down because of what they're allowing to happen, would they be left shouting in the wind, or could they mobilise the dis-enfranchised masses ?

Times like these breed revolution (or worse), how much more of this would it take for people to revolt ?

Are we near that point now where we send the politicians packing ?, or will we accept anything that's dumped on us ?

Discuss.
I don't think the removal of REA's is going to lead to the revolution but keep dreaming.
 

friendlyfire

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If it didn't happen when the IMF marched into Dublin.....it will never happen with the sheep in this country.
 

shiel

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Politics failed long ago when the media in this country thought that a virtual one party state was normal.

The dangerous times arrived some years ago.
 
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hammer

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Absolutely.

€29 billion for a bank where SOME directors had close links with BIFFO
€5.4 billion for Fingers Building Society

Barely a tut tut.


FF support rising :)

FF supporters deserve every bit of austerity that hits the *****
 

drummed

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Disuss what? The vacuous and repetitive nature of your thread or your now complete lack of common sense? What's your alternative to politics by the way?
 

hiding behind a poster

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On foot of today's court ruling striking out the Registered Employment Agreements, which follows the JLCs being struck down a while ago, aided and abetted by politicians doing their employer buddies bidding, are we arriving at a point where the seeds of revolution are being sown ?

Public Sector workers have had enough of austerity as demonstrated by the Croke Park ballot results, Private Sector workers are having their terms and conditions destroyed, such as what happened today in the Courts.

In the meantime, ordinary people are watching the politicians 'saving' the bankers/bondholders et all and there's a growing sense of resentment at the unfairness of what is happening. Throw in all the new taxes etc, there's some stew brewing at the moment.

When the Establishment, (esp politicians) get to a point where they allow or promote such injustices to be perpetrated on ordinary people, people cease to accept that the Establishment has legitimacy.

If someone was to step forward in this climate and call for the Establishment to be taken down because of what they're allowing to happen, would they be left shouting in the wind, or could they mobilise the dis-enfranchised masses ?

Times like these breed revolution (or worse), how much more of this would it take for people to revolt ?

Are we near that point now where we send the politicians packing ?, or will we accept anything that's dumped on us ?

Discuss.
Yawn.
 

wedwood

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So far 5-0 in favour/resignation to meek submission, bummer !!!!
 

davoid

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On foot of today's court ruling striking out the Registered Employment Agreements, which follows the JLCs being struck down a while ago, aided and abetted by politicians doing their employer buddies bidding, are we arriving at a point where the seeds of revolution are being sown ?

Public Sector workers have had enough of austerity as demonstrated by the Croke Park ballot results, Private Sector workers are having their terms and conditions destroyed, such as what happened today in the Courts.

In the meantime, ordinary people are watching the politicians 'saving' the bankers/bondholders et all and there's a growing sense of resentment at the unfairness of what is happening. Throw in all the new taxes etc, there's some stew brewing at the moment.

When the Establishment, (esp politicians) get to a point where they allow or promote such injustices to be perpetrated on ordinary people, people cease to accept that the Establishment has legitimacy.

If someone was to step forward in this climate and call for the Establishment to be taken down because of what they're allowing to happen, would they be left shouting in the wind, or could they mobilise the dis-enfranchised masses ?

Times like these breed revolution (or worse), how much more of this would it take for people to revolt ?

Are we near that point now where we send the politicians packing ?, or will we accept anything that's dumped on us ?

Discuss.
You mean paying electricians €20 an hour is cause for revolution.?

Goodness me. I must rush to the barricades.
 

drummed

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So far 5-0 in favour/resignation to meek submission, bummer !!!!
Yeah, we can see you are out leading the people to salvation tonight:rolleyes: Comfy on that sofa?
 

wedwood

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You mean paying electricians €20 an hour is cause for revolution.?

Goodness me. I must rush to the barricades.
8-0 to accepting our living standards being taken away as the Establishment sees fit.

Close the thread please, urgently !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

mido

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6-0 to accepting our living standards being taken away as the Establishment sees fit.

Close the thread please, urgently !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
have you tried texting the vinnie b show on tv3 - may be some hope there
 

drummed

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8-0 to accepting our living standards being taken away as the Establishment sees fit.

Close the thread please, urgently !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Your first good idea. What's the alternative to politics?
 

hammer

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What if pay is cut to €8.65 per hour ?

Does everyone Jack in their job?

Or do people see opportunities to go self employed?
 

stopdoingstuff

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Politics is only failing if one is confused about what the purpose of politics is. The purpose of politics is to provide a reliable system through which privileged special interests are able to seize control of both public and private wealth via regulatory capture, pre-screened and/or made-to-order domestic legislation and international agreements, a pre-arranged fake discourse that seeks to limit public debate so to provide the illusion of there being a robust intellectual and journalistic policy and personality vetting process, and an almost entirely staged electoral process where no major party disagrees on the fundamentals of an agenda that suits those who fund the parties to begin with. It seems to me that things are running as they are intended to run.
 

Socratus O' Pericles

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Politics is only failing if one is confused about what the purpose of politics is. The purpose of politics is to provide a reliable system through which privileged special interests are able to seize control of both public and private wealth via regulatory capture, pre-screened and/or made-to-order domestic legislation and international agreements, a pre-arranged fake discourse that seeks to limit public debate so to provide the illusion of there being a robust intellectual and journalistic policy and personality vetting process, and an almost entirely staged electoral process where no major party disagrees on the fundamentals of an agenda that suits those who fund the parties to begin with. It seems to me that things are running as they are intended to run.
Cynicism is unbecoming in one so young.:)
 
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