PoliticsWiki.ie - Documenting the differences between the policies of our politicians

selkies

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I have started a Wiki to document the differences in policy between the policies of our politicians.

Wikipedia doesn't tend to cover this sort of area and local councillors + candidates aren't really significant enough for them to cover.

I've created placeholders for every TD and a new contributor created all the Seantor placeholders.

For an example have a look at Barry O'Neill - Politics Wiki

It's very new, there is some content there, but what I really need is for people to start contributing to it.

Edit The Wiki is limited to the people and things currently relevant in politics, it also doesn't cover the biography of politicians already listed on Wikipedia, instead it provides wikipedia links.
It currently covers: TDs, Senators, some MEPs, our commisioner and Candidates for election but it could also cover journalists, websites, campaigns, referendums, laws, judges etc.

The site is non partisan, everything must be backed up by citation, myself and the other mod will check everything and when it becomes too much for us to handle we will give the mod powers to those who have shown they can act responsibly

I understand that not everyone has the time so I recommend that if you like the idea but don't have the time or inclination to get involved that you do the following:

1. Like us on facebook PoliticsWiki.ie | Facebook
2. Follow us on twitter PoliticsWiki (PoliticsWiki) on Twitter
3. Like/RT some of our posts on twitter/facebook
4. Tell your friends about our website
5. Keep it in mind if you ever hear something about a politician that people should know
6. Change your mind and get involved!

Yes I know I am posting this just after I reached 100 posts, I did join this forum just to promote the site, but the entire thing is non profit, I will not make money on this, in fact I'm losing money on hosting and on advertising (way more on advertising).

In fact I would say that the fact that I spent a large amount of today building up my post count without spamming p.ie just so I could tell you about the site I have speaks volumes for it.

I hope that the work I'm putting in will be worth it and that some of you will take over the running of the wiki someday soon, so I can begin work on the next democracy focused website.

Anyway Main Page - Politics Wiki

Go to it, let me know what you think, then discover that you don't need me to approve your ideas there is an edit button.
 
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Baron von Biffo

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I have started a Wiki to document the differences in policy between the policies of our politicians.

Wikipedia doesn't tend to cover this sort of area and local councillors + candidates aren't really significant enough for them to cover.
Wikipedia is worthless on Irish politics because it's controlled by hacks from FG.

See [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leader_of_the_Opposition_%28Ireland%29"]Leader of the Opposition (Ireland) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia@@AMEPARAM@@/wiki/File:Coat_of_arms_of_Ireland.svg" class="image"><img alt="Coat of arms of Ireland" src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fe/Coat_of_arms_of_Ireland.svg/100px-Coat_of_arms_of_Ireland.svg.png"@@AMEPARAM@@commons/thumb/f/fe/Coat_of_arms_of_Ireland.svg/100px-Coat_of_arms_of_Ireland.svg.png[/ame] and [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opposition_Front_Bench_%28Ireland%29"]Opposition Front Bench (Ireland) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia@@AMEPARAM@@/wiki/File:Coat_of_arms_of_Ireland.svg" class="image"><img alt="Coat of arms of Ireland" src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fe/Coat_of_arms_of_Ireland.svg/100px-Coat_of_arms_of_Ireland.svg.png"@@AMEPARAM@@commons/thumb/f/fe/Coat_of_arms_of_Ireland.svg/100px-Coat_of_arms_of_Ireland.svg.png[/ame]

I've created placeholders for every TD and a new contributor created all the Seantor placeholders.

For an example have a look at Barry O'Neill - Politics Wiki

It's very new, there is some content there, but what I really need is for people to start contributing to it.

The Wiki is limited to the currently active policy makers, it also doesn't cover the biography of politicians already listed on Wikipedia, instead it provides wikipedia links.

The site is non partisan, everything must be backed up by citation, myself and the other mod will check everything and when it becomes too much for us to handle we will give the mod powers to those who have shown they can act responsibly
The fact that you say it's limited to currently active policy makers but you provide a link to a councillor who just happens to be the Fine Gael candidate in a by-election leaves a huge question mark over your non partisan claim.
 

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The fact that you say it's limited to currently active policy makers but you provide a link to a councillor who just happens to be the Fine Gael candidate in a by-election leaves a huge question mark over your non partisan claim.
Can't it just be an honest mistake.

I'm limiting it to people who are still involved in politics.

What on earth use would the website be if it didn't cover candidates as well,
besides I was just saying how wikipedia didn't cover candidates..

also
Pearse Doherty - Politics Wiki is my personal favourite at the moment although I hate sinn fein so I'd never vote for him, Frank McBrearty Jnr - Politics Wiki represents my favourite party although I don't like parties, and Brian Ó Domhnaill - Politics Wiki is ... in fianna fail but I have no idea what he is like so help me figure that out.
Here are the rest who are all independents.
They will be harder to find out about because their parties don't have websites but I'm sure you lot are up to the task!
 

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document the differences in policy between the policies of our politicians.
Sorry, I'm stuck already, what differences?
 

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Sorry, I'm stuck already, what differences?
Well something I like about Pearse Doherty is that he published his seanad expenses.

He also said the seanad should be abolished
given that he is a senator I think that is unusual.

I'd post a link to my sources but linking to the wiki is much easier Pearse Doherty - Politics Wiki

Sinn Fein also tend to be euro sceptics, I believe but I can't back that up.

They were the first things that came to mind but I did a comparison of the Sinn Fein and Labour party policy websites, quickly I chose an issue, I looked at education.

I decided what issue most mattered to me from their list of points.

I like Labours: Recognise Educate Together as a School Patron.

I have no idea what this means, but it fits in with Labour's secularist views which really suit the way I think. It makes me think that Labour are gonna know what I want.

Where as Sinn Fein focus on specific more practical issues in their policies.
Like they say the following

Primary Level

Primary schools that are centred in the community, reflective of the community,that share information and expertise with local nursery schools and post-primary schools and aim for a pupil-teacher ratio of 15:1, to facilitate development and learning at this crucial stage

I mean I don't like Sinn Fein due to their you know, condoning murder, but that is a definite commitment, worth thinking about if I ever want to have kids.

I will post more stuff on this thread as I find it.

Maybe you would be willing to go find stuff yourself?
And contribute toward PoliticsWiki.
I can't sit here spoon feeding you, you gotta help me here...

*bursts out into song* Won't you pleeeeee eeez help meeeee :eek:
 

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Also Fine Gael says in their plan to reinvent government that they want to reduce the number of TDs and Senators by 35%.

Reducing the number of TDs seems unworkable. Maybe they have a way to do it, all irrelevant to this thread really, the important thing is that that entire document is available in a concise format, possibly just bullet point the exciting bits.

Is this an unofficial..political advert?
Well I started the website and I'm trying to tell you people about it so it's an official advert

and a pro democracy, pro transparency website is still political.

So you're mostly right
 

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I mean I don't like Sinn Fein due to their you know, condoning murder, but that is a definite commitment,
That is quite a radical policy to have. Are you sure it is still current policy??
 

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That is quite a radical policy to have. Are you sure it is still current policy??
No I'm pretty sure they say that it's ok to stop now. However they haven't condemned the murder of Garda Mc Cabe for example, so that will stop me from voting for them until they do.


But back to the topic at hand, it doesn't matter what I think, because if you lot join up you can make sure I'm not biased.

Sure if I'm biased you can just post it here and everyone will find out about it, I certainly don't want that.
 

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''Document the differences between politicans so that voters can see who best represents''
Why should i bother,is this a party political advertistment you want me to contribute to.. because i am CERTAINLY NOT GOING TO DO THAT!
This is quite an accusation. Pretty much a personal attack.
You are accusing me of lying in a way that amounts to corruption.

Maybe I have done something that makes you think I'm being corrupt.
I really want to be sure that I'm not only free from corruption but seen to be free from corruption.
What makes you think that I am corrupt? Maybe if you could provide the reasoning that led you to that conclusion then I could find out what I did wrong here.
 

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Just so you know I have joined political party for the first time tonight. It's a personal thing not on behalf of the website I've founded or the people who have contributed, I will be careful not to favor them in moderation or research however I will try to encourage them to contribute to politicswiki as politically engaged citizens. The reason that I am joining the Irish democratic party is the same reason I started politicswiki, I want to be involved in the political process and I want others to join me. If anyone has any issue with this please share it. I am happy to do whatever will help to make you feel sure of the integrity of my politicswiki moderation and my contribution in the role as a user as long as it doesn't unacceptably reduce the effectiveness of politicswiki as a tool for objective voter education.

Not that it will matter much until I actually get some regular contributors.
*fingers crossed*
 

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Yes I know I am posting this just after I reached 100 posts,
so the previous 99 posts were all bull-biscuits, is that what you are saying?

And all along I thought you were the most gifted P.ie contributor. I am gutted.
 

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Good on you Selkies - you are trying to do something about the current state of affairs and I commend that you are not apathetic, I hope you take the advice on the other thread and get the legalities of the other site sorted.

Good luck with both:)
 

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Good on you Selkies - you are trying to do something about the current state of affairs and I commend that you are not apathetic, I hope you take the advice on the other thread and get the legalities of the other site sorted.

Good luck with both:)
Thanks, that's very kind of you.
I'm certainly working on sorting out those issues

Politicswiki pretty much died due to lack of contributors, it will come down to how interested people are in my idea how successful it ends up being
 


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