(poll) NI people starting to look towards unity as big bad Brexit looms..

InsideImDancing

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1. NI CONSTITUTIONAL POSITION

Positions taking into account the recent EU Referendum decision. The results are as expected with the most favourable option being NI remaining in the UK and the European Union (30.1%), closely followed by NI remaining in the UK and leaving the European Union (25.3%). This sort reflects the NI EU Referendum result.

The other two options had the following scores:

If the UK leaves the European Union - NI should leave the UK and join the Irish Republic as one country as a member of the EU (24.2%).

NI should leave the UK and join the Irish Republic as one country regardless of whether Ireland is a member of the EU or not (20.2%).

https://lucidtalk.co.uk/images/News/LTDec16TrackerPollResults-GeneralRpt.pdf (page 3).

It seems like Brexit is making many people reconsider their preference for NI's constitutional position. What say you, for a good laugh like? :)
 


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55 odd per cent prefer to remain within the UK. That's roughly the Protestant/Unionist population. There's no evidence, so far as I can see, that any decent size chunk of the PUL community are evolving on the issue of unity.
 

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There are lies, damned lies and Nordie Ireland polls.

Brexit makes me considerably more unfavourable to a united Ireland- though Irexit would make me much more sympathetic to the concept.
 

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1. NI CONSTITUTIONAL POSITION

Positions taking into account the recent EU Referendum decision. The results are as expected with the most favourable option being NI remaining in the UK and the European Union (30.1%), closely followed by NI remaining in the UK and leaving the European Union (25.3%). This sort reflects the NI EU Referendum result.

The other two options had the following scores:

If the UK leaves the European Union - NI should leave the UK and join the Irish Republic as one country as a member of the EU (24.2%).

NI should leave the UK and join the Irish Republic as one country regardless of whether Ireland is a member of the EU or not (20.2%).

https://lucidtalk.co.uk/images/News/LTDec16TrackerPollResults-GeneralRpt.pdf (page 3).

It seems like Brexit is making many people reconsider their preference for NI's constitutional position. What say you, for a good laugh like? :)

Dancer, without Brexit NE Ireland was heading towards unity, disposable income per week is some 100 pounds behind the other component parts that make up the now divided Kingdom, as we speak retailers there are increasing their prices to consumers due to the consequences of the fall in sterling, Brexit could take years to complete and that makes it impossible for anyone to absorb these increases, so that in anyone's thinking, means an escalation towards unification........it's simple arithmetic ffs.
 

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It was already around 20% on a UI.
 

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55 odd per cent prefer to remain within the UK. That's roughly the Protestant/Unionist population. There's no evidence, so far as I can see, that any decent size chunk of the PUL community are evolving on the issue of unity.
I hope the UK does not do a deal with the USA. If it does do a deal with the USA the agri-food sector will be destroyed.
 

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We are United in Rugby Union,Rugby league and Eurovision.
All are 32 county teams.

That 90% of job done.
 

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55 odd per cent prefer to remain within the UK. That's roughly the Protestant/Unionist population. There's no evidence, so far as I can see, that any decent size chunk of the PUL community are evolving on the issue of unity.
Yet the middle-class and wealthy farming Unionist areas voted strongly for Remain. A hard Brexit that causes carnage for the agri sector, the re-imposition of the border, rocketing food prices, more forced cuts to the subvention, the collapse of the NHS and any number of other possible negative consequences of Brexit and people will start having to have a good hard think. Of course it's always possible (extremely unlikely IMO, but theoretically possible) that Brexit could be a success even for NornIrn....but with the Tories in charge and the size of the agri sector in the north it's hard to see how that can happen.

It's really far to early to say how Brexit might eventually change people's minds one way or the other, it'll be years yet before the full consequences play out.
 

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once people see the benefits of brexit it will all be grand.imagine if it hadnt of happened and the place ending up like calcutta.
 

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Yet the middle-class and wealthy farming Unionist areas voted strongly for Remain. A hard Brexit that causes carnage for the agri sector, the re-imposition of the border, rocketing food prices, more forced cuts to the subvention, the collapse of the NHS and any number of other possible negative consequences of Brexit and people will start having to have a good hard think. Of course it's always possible (extremely unlikely IMO, but theoretically possible) that Brexit could be a success even for NornIrn....but with the Tories in charge and the size of the agri sector in the north it's hard to see how that can happen.

It's really far to early to say how Brexit might eventually change people's minds one way or the other, it'll be years yet before the full consequences play out.
Ulster farmers will come out of this better than their Irish counterparts. Although CAP payments from the EU will cease, the Ulster farmer will be more than compensated by the UK government who are now spared tens of Billions in EU contributions.With the UK, a huge net contributor now outside of the EU, the funds available to finance CAP payments will be greatly reduced and consequently Irish farmers will be impacted, the whole financial dynamics will alter.

As regard border control? This will be no different than stopping at a toll booth, we are quite used to them on all of the dual carriageways (M7, M8 etc.) in the Republic, it’s minimal inconvenience and nothing to be concerned about.

With BREXIT, horrendous national debt and Trump promising to repatriate high tech American jobs we (in the RoI) are facing a nightmare scenario, hence you can discount any notion of a UI as nobody anywhere will have the stomach for it.
In short you'll have Britain to look after you, whereas we're on our own.
 

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1. NI CONSTITUTIONAL POSITION

Positions taking into account the recent EU Referendum decision. The results are as expected with the most favourable option being NI remaining in the UK and the European Union (30.1%), closely followed by NI remaining in the UK and leaving the European Union (25.3%). This sort reflects the NI EU Referendum result.

The other two options had the following scores:

If the UK leaves the European Union - NI should leave the UK and join the Irish Republic as one country as a member of the EU (24.2%).

NI should leave the UK and join the Irish Republic as one country regardless of whether Ireland is a member of the EU or not (20.2%).

https://lucidtalk.co.uk/images/News/LTDec16TrackerPollResults-GeneralRpt.pdf (page 3).

It seems like Brexit is making many people reconsider their preference for NI's constitutional position. What say you, for a good laugh like? :)
Wishful thinking :D

Still, after 2016 you'll clutch at any straws ....
 

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Wishful thinking :D

Still, after 2016 you'll clutch at any straws ....
Hardly, no one predicted a UI by 2016 and you know it, so stop telling porkies.
 

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Hardly, no one predicted a UI by 2016 and you know it, so stop telling porkies.
We'll have a united Ireland by 2016, says McGuinness - Independent.ie

A UNITED Ireland by 2016 is on the cards, Sinn Fein's Martin McGuinness predicted last night.

With nine days left to the North's Assembly Election, the Mid Ulster MP said at his party's manifesto launch republicans could attain their goal by the centenary of the 1916 Easter Rising.

"As we develop the north-south implementation bodies and people co-operate and work together, I think people will see more and more the logic of that," Mr McGuinness said.

"Certainly it is our view that it can be accomplished over a short period. Gerry Adams has said 2016 and I think that is achievable.
 

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There are lies, damned lies and Nordie Ireland polls.

Brexit makes me considerably more unfavourable to a united Ireland- though Irexit would make me much more sympathetic to the concept.
I'm not favourable to a UI but Eirexit would make it a lot less unpalatable. Why do Nats seek independence only to give it away again to an even bigger Union?
 

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1. NI CONSTITUTIONAL POSITION

Positions taking into account the recent EU Referendum decision. The results are as expected with the most favourable option being NI remaining in the UK and the European Union (30.1%), closely followed by NI remaining in the UK and leaving the European Union (25.3%). This sort reflects the NI EU Referendum result.

The other two options had the following scores:

If the UK leaves the European Union - NI should leave the UK and join the Irish Republic as one country as a member of the EU (24.2%).

NI should leave the UK and join the Irish Republic as one country regardless of whether Ireland is a member of the EU or not (20.2%).

https://lucidtalk.co.uk/images/News/LTDec16TrackerPollResults-GeneralRpt.pdf (page 3).

It seems like Brexit is making many people reconsider their preference for NI's constitutional position. What say you, for a good laugh like? :)

What makes you say that? I don't see any increase in support for a United Ireland.
 
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Ulster farmers will come out of this better than their Irish counterparts. Although CAP payments from the EU will cease, the Ulster farmer will be more than compensated by the UK government who are now spared tens of Billions in EU contributions.With the UK, a huge net contributor now outside of the EU, the funds available to finance CAP payments will be greatly reduced and consequently Irish farmers will be impacted, the whole financial dynamics will alter.

As regard border control? This will be no different than stopping at a toll booth, we are quite used to them on all of the dual carriageways (M7, M8 etc.) in the Republic, it’s minimal inconvenience and nothing to be concerned about.

With BREXIT, horrendous national debt and Trump promising to repatriate high tech American jobs we (in the RoI) are facing a nightmare scenario, hence you can discount any notion of a UI as nobody anywhere will have the stomach for it.
In short you'll have Britain to look after you, whereas we're on our own.
Get real, UK struggling with its own national debt, compensating some Ulster farmers will be way down the list.
 

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What makes you say that? I don't see any increase in support for a United Ireland.
The poll states there is an increase among Nationalists/Republicans and Unionists.
 


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