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Poor Joseph. God was a hard act to follow


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An unholy row has broken out in New Zealand over a church billboard aimed at "challenging stereotypes" about the birth of Jesus Christ.

The mischievous biblical bedroom billboard was defaced just over five hours after it was erected. The controversial billboard, erected by St Matthew-in-the-City Church about 11am, shows Joseph looking down dejectedly and Mary looking sad. Underneath is a caption, "Poor Joseph. God is a hard act to follow." The church has said it erected the billboard to inspire people to talk about the Christmas story. The church's archdeacon said its mischievous biblical bedroom billboard had provoked support and disapproval in about equal measures. Archdeacon Glynn Cardy said the church had received emails and phone calls since it made the public aware of the billboard yesterday.

The billboard has already raised the wrath of the traditional values pressure group Family First. "The church can have its debate on the Virgin birth and its spiritual significance inside the church building, but to confront children and families with the concept as a street billboard is completely irresponsible and unnecessary," Family First national director Bob McCoskrie said. "The church has failed to recognise that public billboards are exposed to all of the public including children and families who may be offended by the material." Catholic Church spokeswoman Lyndsay Freer said the image was inappropriate and disrespectful.

The archdeacon said the plan behind the billboard was to lampoon the literal interpretation of the Christmas conception story.

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I thought Joseph was a gay?
Who, Joseph Christ? No sure wasn't he a builder. You have to read the Gopsel of Judas to get the real story
..and ye the Blessed Mother of the Christ did appear unto him and to us his Apostles.
An varily she did say, "Wouldst thou not get a real job like thine cousin Fred, who worketh in abacus installation and support an ith married with children". And ye varily Jesus did reply, "Wrecketh not my head Ma, nor paineth my hole. See ye how my desciples shrink from thine dowerness and thine shrieking voice. Knoweth you not that thine husband doth hide in the pub after work to avoid thee for thou be-ist a wagon" And Mary, enraged, did shout "What knowest thou of marriage when thou doth pass thine time in the company of 12 men on the beach of the sea of Galilee,"..
 

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I think the picture is very funny and the ad really witty and creative.

Hardly surprising that the kiddy-fiddler church is agin' it; aren't they agin' everything that's fun (except, of course, kiddy-fiddling and using the form of sophist lying called "mental reservation" to cover it up).

Actually, I'm surprised no one laughed the whole Jesus-Mary-Joseph myth off the planet the moment it was told. It's pretty hard to believe. Joseph is married to Mary, but doesn't get the leg over, yet stands by her after she joins the pudding club and tells him an angel has dropped by to inform her the Holy Ghost has put her up the spout. Yeah!!!;);)

Besides, the church persists in sticking to that tale, even though if it were true, it would constitute rape. Wham, bang, thank you Maam, you're preggers! Without as much as a "by your leave". The word "consent" must have been invented only later;)

If you really believe doo-doo like that, it's only a short step to believing it's all right to do little boys and girls, because they don't really know about the great beautiful and mysterious things that the men in black can teach them.:)
 
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I think the picture is very funny and the ad really witty and creative.

Hardly surprising that the kiddy-fiddler church is agin' it; aren't they agin' everything that's fun (except, of course, kiddy-fiddling and using the form of sophist lying called "mental reservation" to cover it up).

Actually, I'm surprised no one laughed the whole Jesus-Mary-Joseph myth off the planet the moment it was told. It's pretty hard to believe. Joseph is married to Mary, but doesn't get the leg over, yet stands by her after she joins the pudding club and tells him an angel has dropped by to inform her the Holy Ghost has put her up the spout. Yeah!!!;);)

Besides, the church persists in sticking to that tale, even though if it were true, it would constitute rape. Wham, bang, thank you Maam, you're preggers! Without as much as a "by your leave". The word "consent" must have been invented only later;)

If you really believe doo-doo like that, it's only a short step to believing it's all right to do little boys and girls, because they don't really know about the great beautiful and mysterious things that the men in black can teach them.:)

“Reason is the greatest enemy that faith has.”
Martin Luther
 

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An English friend once told me about a big billboard that a church had erected beside a bus stop in Oxford. It read: "Where will you be spending eternity?"

Someone had scrawled a reply on it: "Here, most likely, waiting for a bleeding bus!":)

Another good one I saw a few years ago was in a Finnish city where every other advertising column had a poster saying "Jesus is coming" and every other an ad for a well-known brand of condoms saying: "Be prepared, wear a Sultan!":D:D:D
 
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An English friend once told me about a big billboard that a church had erected beside a bus stop in Oxford. It read: "Where will you be spending eternity?"

Someone had scrawled a reply on it: "Here, most likely, waiting for a bleeding bus!":)

Another good one I saw a few years ago was in a Finnish city where every other advertising column had a poster saying "Jesus is coming" and every other an ad for a well-known brand of condoms saying: "Be prepared, wear a Sultan!"

 

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Where, precisely, is the connection between this bigotry and politics?
Archdeacon Cardy said the true importance of Christmas "is in the radical hospitality Jesus offered to
the poor
the despised
women
children
and the sick

and says: 'this is the essence of God. His death was a consequence of the offensive nature of that hospitality and his resurrection a symbolic vindication". The archdeacon said St Matthew-in-the-City was at the progressive end of the Christian continuum, and that he believed God was "more like a force but not a being in any sense".

Coincidentally or no, all the groups mentioned above came under attack in the recent Budget devised by economists for politicians.
 
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good ..maybe the Kiwis shouldn't be cheeking god..he did give us the South Island and the All Blacks (and a place in football World Cup so the girls can watch sport too)
 
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good ..maybe the Kiwis shouldn't be cheeking god..he did give us the South Island and the All Blacks (and a place in football World Cup so the girls can watch sport too)
:lol:

All Blacks are a bunch of sissy's,everybody knows that :p
 

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Archdeacon Cardy said the true importance of Christmas "is in the radical hospitality Jesus offered to
the poor
the despised
women
children
and the sick

and says: 'this is the essence of God. His death was a consequence of the offensive nature of that hospitality and his resurrection a symbolic vindication". The archdeacon said St Matthew-in-the-City was at the progressive end of the Christian continuum, and that he believed God was "more like a force but not a being in any sense".

Coincidentally or no, all the groups mentioned above came under attack in the recent Budget devised by economists for politicians.
With respect, that does not answer my question.

The question of the virgin birth or Mary's virginity is not a political one. It is a purely theological/scriptural one. This is a political website. It should stick to political matters and not engage in religious bigotry.
 

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oh just wait till the aethiests roll into the arguement and start banging on about that if god did exist he's basically a dirty paedophile that knocked up a 16yr old and then buggered off till the kid was 30 !

they'd demand he be strung up for statutory rape and a couple of decades worth of maintenance .
 

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