Pope Francis on Luther: "with gratitude..."

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Is nothing sacred?? petuniapetunia:shock2:

Luther was this monk who objected to the church selling pardons and made a fuss of it in 1517 and and and.....


Visiting the cities of Lund and Malmo in southern Sweden for a joint Catholic-Lutheran commemoration of the Reformation, the pope observed the 499th anniversary of Luther’s protest of the sale of indulgences by noting the beneficial impact it had on Catholicism.
“With gratitude we acknowledge that the Reformation helped give greater centrality to sacred Scripture in the church’s life,” the pope said


http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/01/world/europe/pope-francis-in-sweden-urges-catholic-lutheran-reconciliation.html?_r=0


So now, could half of you do a rant, and half say that it's time we got over it all and there never yet was an Irish pope ....
 


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What would Martin Luther be if he were white?



Alive!
 

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In a world where people literally believed they could die and be burned in hell for all eternity the sale of indulgences makes perfect sense, peace of mind.

And they managed to construct St Peters out of it.

Simony is a different matter, it is common corruption - but all the cardinals back then were nobles anyway, what difference to the masses if one of them just bought the office outright?
 

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Well fair dues Rots says.Frances represents The definition of a good loser after 499 years!:rolleyes:
 

Socratus O' Pericles

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i'd say you would have got some land if you had purchased a dispensation after you died............can you imagine the kerfuffel at the pearly gates................why sir, the issuer had no authority to do so..............in fact there's no such thing........
 

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Pffft, typical tea egg bandwagon jumping...
 

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Pffft, typical tea egg bandwagon jumping...
Martin Luther was a disturbed and tragic but definite genius, who definitely had flashes of Religious genius as the actual Holy Father Pope Benedict XVI has gladly acknowledged. The jumped up nite club hired Jesuit thug pretending to the Throne of Saint Peter is no "Tea Egg" as you put it. Most DUP voters are probably more Catholic than this character.
 

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In a world where people literally believed they could die and be burned in hell for all eternity the sale of indulgences makes perfect sense, peace of mind.

And they managed to construct St Peters out of it.

Simony is a different matter, it is common corruption - but all the cardinals back then were nobles anyway, what difference to the masses if one of them just bought the office outright?
Luther is a heretic.

Pope Francis praising a heretic?

From the article in the OP.
As recently as 1951 (in Sweden), Catholics were barred from becoming doctors, teachers and nurses, and Catholic convents were banned until the 1970s.
 

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I'm not a Catholic but this seems pretty bad.

Can a pope be deposed?

If so, how?
 

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I'm not a Catholic but this seems pretty bad.

Can a pope be deposed?

If so, how?
His election was un-canonical so there is no need for him to be deposed as such. Just the fact that he is/was an Anti-Pope recognized. Catholics of good will who accept his canonicity I dont think can be regarded as schismatic as such given the precedent of the Great Western Schism.
 

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His election was un-canonical so there is no need for him to be deposed as such. Just the fact that he is/was an Anti-Pope recognized. Catholics of good will who accept his canonicity I dont think can be regarded as schismatic as such given the precedent of the Great Western Schism.
He is an anti-Pope? How so?

Is praising a heretic like Luther verboten?
 

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Bit odd this

- very odd in fact

Luther was (& still is) a Heretic of the First Order

Has this Pope lost it?:?
 

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He is an anti-Pope? How so?

Is praising a heretic like Luther verboten?
His election is un-canonical because we cant be certain as to whether or not force or devious means was applied to Pope Benedict XVI to make him resign.

No its not verboten as such. Anti-Pope Francis has said though much worse than this.
 


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