Pornography vs War



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I would not want to have anything to do with a desensitised numbed whore.
Reading that statement, it seems to me that it is you who is desensitised and numbed. And, just for your information, if you sell your labour for a price, you are a whore too.
 

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I am sick of liberal duchbags trying to justify the seedy depriving lives of these people as not only normal but sometimes even desirable or admirable. No proper woman would prostitute herself. :mad:
Capitalism turns everyone into whores. How many porn movies were made in the USSR while Comrade Stalin was in charge?
 

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Capitalism turns everyone into whores. How many porn movies were made in the USSR while Comrade Stalin was in charge?
I don't know,it was illegal since sex was considered a waste of time,and your energy should go to communism. But there was still probably an underground production of porn.

Communism had too many rules.
 

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Capitalism turns everyone into whores. How many porn movies were made in the USSR while Comrade Stalin was in charge?
How many movies of any kind were made ? My point being , it was the technology , not the ideology , that prevented porn .
 

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How many movies of any kind were made ? My point being , it was the technology , not the ideology , that prevented porn .
Some of the 20th centuries greatest movies were made in the USSR. Any film critic will tell you that. Some of them were even quite erotic, including nudity. But, they were art, not porn.
 

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I don't know,it was illegal since sex was considered a waste of time
Sex was considered a waste of time in the USSR? Were do you people get this stuff from?
 

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Some of the 20th centuries greatest movies were made in the USSR. Any film critic will tell you that. Some of them were even quite erotic, including nudity. But, they were art, not porn.
Perhaps . However , since the collapse of communism , former communist countries have led the world in terms of porn . A huge proportion of modern porn stars were born in communist/former communist countries . Im not judging . I am observing . I have also heard , anecdotally from 'travellers' , that eastern european 'morals' have always been 'easy' . Probably due to the lack of repressive religions . Again I am not judging . In fact I support such liberalism .
 

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Perhaps . However , since the collapse of communism , former communist countries have led the world in terms of porn . A huge proportion of modern porn stars were born in communist/former communist countries . Im not judging . I am observing . I have also heard , anecdotally from 'travellers' , that eastern european 'morals' have always been 'easy' . Probably due to the lack of repressive religions . Again I am not judging . In fact I support such liberalism .
I think it has more to do with the almost total destruction of society by Milton Friedman's Shock Capitalism, and the fact that Eastern Europeans have been so degraded by Capitalism, than any ingrained lack of morality. Most of the porn made there is made by US and West European companies. I think that pretty much says it all.
 

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I think it has more to do with the almost total destruction of society by Milton Friedman's Shock Capitalism, and the fact that Eastern Europeans have been so degraded by Capitalism, than any ingrained lack of morality. Most of the porn made there is made by US and West European companies. I think that pretty much says it all.
Indeed . However , I am still skeptical about 'socialist morality' . Is it related to other kinds of 'morality' ? Is there some kind of socialist 'pope' ? If so , I am not interested in such a philosophy.
 

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I think it has more to do with the almost total destruction of society by Milton Friedman's Shock Capitalism, and the fact that Eastern Europeans have been so degraded by Capitalism, than any ingrained lack of morality. Most of the porn made there is made by US and West European companies. I think that pretty much says it all.
There is quite a shift to the people (Women in particular) in the industry taking control of the production and distribution themselves, am helping a friend do a college project on this area so swamped with info on it.

Well done btw dealing with those posts, some were real howlers, you have more patience than I Cael (Or just more obsessive ya commie nut ;)) :D
 

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Indeed . However , I am still skeptical about 'socialist morality' . Is it related to other kinds of 'morality' ? Is there some kind of socialist 'pope' ? If so , I am not interested in such a philosophy.
I think the USSR was far to stuck in a productionist mindset, so a humanist morality could well have been lacking. The same is true of the West. In fact, it is a very serious ill effect of the whole Englightenment. Production becomes and end in itself, and we humans are regarded as merely inputs to that production.

I dont think any kind of pope or organised religion is needed for a sense of morality.
 

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Well done btw dealing with those posts, some were real howlers, you have more patience than I Cael (Or just more obsesive ya commie nut ;)) :D
Lol, I pay to much attention to these feejits altogether.
 

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I remember reading the book 'a deserters tail' as you may guess the story of an american deserter.

He claimed they were promised the sun moon and stars to sign on the dotted line. He was told he'd get $4k when he finished boot camp, when he asked a superior officer about it he was jeered for being so dumb to believe the recruiting ...
Armies throughout history have used deception as an alternative or supplement to press-ganging. The British are among those who are still at it and young eejits with few real alternatives in life are going to Afghanistan to get themselves killed or else crippled, meaning they can enjoy a few hours' fame when the Daily Hatemail or some similar rag runs a story about the shabby way they are treated by the UK government now that they no longer serve any purpose.:rolleyes:

Billy Connolly wrote a fantastic song about the eejits who were conned into joining up to fight in the Six Counties. Computers and sunshine and skis and tropical fruits - until they discovered that the tropical fruit they were most likely to be served with on the Falls Road was a "pineapple".;)

Think what you like about pornography, but nothing compares for sheer evil with the deceptions that the recruiting sergeants of this world and their masters spin.:mad:

YouTube - Sergeant Where's Mine (Live) - Billy Connelly
 

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Perhaps . However , since the collapse of communism , former communist countries have led the world in terms of porn . A huge proportion of modern porn stars were born in communist/former communist countries . Im not judging . I am observing . I have also heard , anecdotally from 'travellers' , that eastern european 'morals' have always been 'easy' . Probably due to the lack of repressive religions . Again I am not judging . In fact I support such liberalism .

Take away the values that kept people in check, Ie 2,000 yrs of Judeo-Christianity, replace it with communist atheist materialism then replace that with a very corrupt type of capitalism materialism, combine that with no social welfare state, and see if the Irish would be any different.
 

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Armies throughout history have used deception as an alternative or supplement to press-ganging. The British are among those who are still at it and young eejits with few real alternatives in life are going to Afghanistan to get themselves killed or else crippled, meaning they can enjoy a few hours' fame when the Daily Hatemail or some similar rag runs a story about the shabby way they are treated by the UK government now that they no longer serve any purpose.:rolleyes:

Billy Connolly wrote a fantastic song about the eejits who were conned into joining up to fight in the Six Counties. Computers and sunshine and skis and tropical fruits - until they discovered that the tropical fruit they were most likely to be served with on the Falls Road was a "pineapple".;)

Think what you like about pornography, but nothing compares for sheer evil with the deceptions that the recruiting sergeants of this world and their masters spin.:mad:

YouTube - Sergeant Where's Mine (Live) - Billy Connelly

Ejeets ? the armed forces are often the cream of A nation, those driven by the need to serve their country, 100 x the man you will ever be. Self sacrifice for a higher purpose is the most noble ideal.

There is a deeply cynical underlying current in Ireland espoused by many too cynical to understand concepts like the above, the concept of serving a higher ideal is a more important value to keep then buying into the likes of your apathy and cynicism/nihilism.

Irelands has lost its heroic ideal, due to the decline of its religion/morality and idealism, which is why its full of wasters and overweight spivs and property developers.

A man/womans Heroic ideal, no matter how its manipulated should never be condemed.



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A bomb disposal hero who saved hundreds of lives in Afghanistan has been killed by a Taliban blast.

Staff Sergeant Brett Linley, 29, died clearing ******explosives. He will be posthumously nominated for a bravery award after fearlessly defusing 100 bombs during his tour.

Perilously close to the fallen soldier’s body sat three more IEDs – which the brave bomb disposal expert calmly made safe one by one as colleagues watched nervously from a safe distance.

They were among 100 devices the fearless 29-year-old defused in his five months at the ******Afghan front line, before he was blown up while trying to clear explosives on Saturday.

And his heroic actions in one of the Army’s most dangerous jobs – that helped saved hundreds of lives – are to be honoured with a ******posthumous George Medal. Staff Sgt Linley’s bosses hailed him as the “bravest of the brave” in a string of tributes.

Lieutenant Colonel Gerald Strickland MBE, Commanding Officer 1st Battalion The Royal Gurkha Rifles ******Battlegroup, said: “I have a vivid memory of him which I think captures everything that was good and ******courageous about him.



Read more: Bomb disposal hero Brett Linley killed in Afghanistan after defusing 100 bombs in 5 months - mirror.co.uk
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Ejeets ? the armed forces are often the cream of the nation, those driven by the need to serve their country, 100 x the man you will ever be. Self sacrifice for a higher purpose is the most noble ideal.

There is a deeply cynical undelying current in Ireland espoused by many to cynical to understand concepts like the above, the ideal of serving a higher ideal is a more important value to keep then buying into the likes of your apathy and cynicism/nihilism.




A bomb disposal hero who saved hundreds of lives in Afghanistan has been killed by a Taliban blast.

Staff Sergeant Brett Linley, 29, died clearing ******explosives. He will be posthumously nominated for a bravery award after fearlessly defusing 100 bombs during his tour.

Perilously close to the fallen soldier’s body sat three more IEDs – which the brave bomb disposal expert calmly made safe one by one as colleagues watched nervously from a safe distance.

They were among 100 devices the fearless 29-year-old defused in his five months at the ******Afghan front line, before he was blown up while trying to clear explosives on Saturday.

And his heroic actions in one of the Army’s most dangerous jobs – that helped saved hundreds of lives – are to be honoured with a ******posthumous George Medal. Staff Sgt Linley’s bosses hailed him as the “bravest of the brave” in a string of tributes.

Lieutenant Colonel Gerald Strickland MBE, Commanding Officer 1st Battalion The Royal Gurkha Rifles ******Battlegroup, said: “I have a vivid memory of him which I think captures everything that was good and ******courageous about him.



Read more: Bomb disposal hero Brett Linley killed in Afghanistan after defusing 100 bombs in 5 months - mirror.co.uk
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I suppose spewing some personal abuse makes you feel good, but I can't help wondering why - if you really think risking your life to prop up a regime as corrupt as the Karzai one and ensure that the supply of heroin to the UK keeps on flowing, whilst also killing lots of women and children as "collateral damage" fulfils some kind of noble purpose - why you aren't there yourself? Join up FFS and don't be another armchair warrior like Kevin Myarse, who has had a lifelong willingness to give the last drop of someone else's blood for whatever imperial cause he supports.

And please, puleeese, spare me the sickly sentimental, beyond-corny quotes from the likes of that Lieutenant Colonel, whose own arse is safe and probably never went anywhere near danger.

I read enough of that kind of sh1te in comics like "Battler Britain" until I grew out of them at around the age of 11.:lol::lol::lol:
 

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I suppose spewing some personal abuse makes you feel good, but I can't help wondering why - if you really think risking your life to prop up a regime as corrupt as the Karzai one and ensure that the supply of heroin to the UK keeps on flowing, whilst also killing lots of women and children as "collateral damage" fulfils some kind of noble purpose - why you aren't there yourself? Join up FFS and don't be another armchair warrior like Kevin Myarse, who has had a lifelong willingness to give the last drop of someone else's blood for whatever imperial cause he supports.

And please, puleeese, spare me the sickly sentimental, beyond-corny quotes from the likes of that Lieutenant Colonel, whose own arse is safe and probably never went anywhere near danger.

I read enough of that kind of sh1te in comics like "Battler Britain" until I grew out of them at around the age of 11.:lol::lol::lol:

Your most likely overweight and done little with your life, slagging off people like the guy above as an ejeet is simply a product of the moral bankruptcy that is the norm in Ireland.

Condeming war and presenting an argument against the Afghan conflict is fine.

But slagging off people who have died serving their nation for a higher ideal as "ejeets", just puts you alongside the property developers, overwight wasters etc that are a product of modern Ireland.

Ie morally bankrupt, cynical and nihilistic.

The Heroic ideal is one that any culture and nation if it is to thrive must keep alive.

100 x the man you will ever be.
 

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The USAF uses "fake" technology to try to look cooler,and get people that are into scifi shows to enlist.
This one is clearly wtf
YouTube - AIR FORCE COMMERCIAL

There is 2 moons in the video,and those goggles don't exist yet.
That commercial was obviously filmed on the next 'earth' that humans get to colonise when they've destroyed the one we currently inhabit. Its a pity they've taken their war games with them!
 


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