Pornography vs War

ballot stuffer

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"We train young men to drop fire on people. But their commanders won't allow them to write "****" on their airplanes because it's obscene!"
 


jcdf

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Why do all you guys,considered having sex worse then putting a bullet in someone's head?
Watching porn is not about having sex, it is about watching someone else having sex and attaining gratification from that. Joining the army is not about shooting someone in the head it is about surrendering a sizable portion of your life, perhaps all, for the well being of others.

Ejeets ? the armed forces are often the cream of A nation, those driven by the need to serve their country, 100 x the man you will ever be. Self sacrifice for a higher purpose is the most noble ideal.

There is a deeply cynical underlying current in Ireland espoused by many too cynical to understand concepts like the above, the concept of serving a higher ideal is a more important value to keep then buying into the likes of your apathy and cynicism/nihilism.

Irelands has lost its heroic ideal, due to the decline of its religion/morality and idealism, which is why its full of wasters and overweight spivs and property developers.

A man/womans Heroic ideal, no matter how its manipulated should never be condemed.
True!
 

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Your most likely overweight and done little with your life, slagging off people like the guy above as an ejeet is simply a product of the moral bankruptcy that is the norm in Ireland.

Condeming war and presenting an argument against the Afghan conflict is fine.

But slagging off people who have died serving their nation for a higher ideal as "ejeets", just puts you alongside the property developers, overwight wasters etc that are a product of modern Ireland.

Ie morally bankrupt, cynical and nihilistic.

The Heroic ideal is one that any culture and nation if it is to thrive must keep alive.

100 x the man you will ever be.
What an eejit you are, just like those fools who allow themselves to be tricked into fighting in a pointless and futile war in a country that few of them could even have found on the map ten years ago.

Very typical of your ilk, you resort to personal abuse to try and compensate for or conceal your dearth of rational arguments. What has my or anyone else's weight got to do with anything? Incidentally, I am exactly the correct weight for my height and age, follow a healthy diet and get plenty of outdoor exercise. My doctor considers me a model patient and has expressed surprise at how rapidly I have recovered after major surgery two months ago.

What about you? I also believe I have nothing to be ashamed of with regard to the way I have led my life. Never a day unemployed and still working as much as I feel like even though I have a decent pension, which I paid for all my working life. How about you? My children are grown up and successful and I believe my wife and I have instilled decent values in them.

My children would not approve of those who allow themselves to be seduced into taking part in a war of aggression that will fail, but will leave many, many innocent people dead, maimed or impoverished. However, they would - like me - defend their homeland against foreign aggression, just as the Afghan patriots are doing.

People like you are narrow-minded fools. And you still haven't answered my question, which is why you aren't in the forces practising what you preach.


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It says a lot about armies in South America and the Middle East. I mean, those people join because they really support their country, as opposed to being duped in by a fancy marketing campaign.
 

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It says a lot about armies in South America and the Middle East. I mean, those people join because they really support their country, as opposed to being duped in by a fancy marketing campaign.
For many its a way out of poverty or circumstances they dont want to be in.....I sit on the fence as regards invasion etc.
 

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Women who 'star' in porn movies have uniformly been victims of child sexual abuse, are victims of violent spouses/boyfriends/partners and/or are drug addicts.
The porn industry is run by criminal scumbags.
Women are not 'whores' - no woman freely chooses to star in a porn movie.
Women who are trapped in the porn industry suffer horrendous psychological damage, get addicted to pain killers because they are forced to endure practices like DP and many develop a range of sexually transmitted conditions.

Your attitude to women is absolutely appalling.

Women are not pieces of meat that exist for your entertainment.
have you no concern for men in the porn industry, who endure a similar existance?
 

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this thread is a bit mad, it assumes that
a) only men are in the army (false)
and
b)only women are in porn(false)
 

myhonorisloyalty666

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this thread is a bit mad, it assumes that
a) only men are in the army (false)
and
b)only women are in porn(false)
The overwhelming majority of females in the military never see front line combat.
Most women are not capable of the carrying the heavy loads of kit, fall out during forced marches, are less robust physically, are incapable of overpowering most men, are no violent or aggressive, are passive and are much more emotional. If a wounded man needs to be carried back an aid station, a tiny little woman just can't do it. When an artillery gun crew need to keep reloading the big heavy 155mm shells, women will be worn out far more quickly slowing down the rate of fire. Women are almost certain to be sexually assaulted or raped when they are captured and the instinct of most men is to rush to protect a woman when she is in distress. Male soldiers are more likely to be traumatized if they see a female comrade fall dead or wounded.
 

Sexual Harassment Panda

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Women who 'star' in porn movies have uniformly been victims of child sexual abuse, are victims of violent spouses/boyfriends/partners and/or are drug addicts.
The porn industry is run by criminal scumbags.
Women are not 'whores' - no woman freely chooses to star in a porn movie.
Women who are trapped in the porn industry suffer horrendous psychological damage, get addicted to pain killers because they are forced to endure practices like DP and many develop a range of sexually transmitted conditions.

Your attitude to women is absolutely appalling.

Women are not pieces of meat that exist for your entertainment.
What absolute nonsense. You have made a series of utterly false statements. women in the porn industry are not "uniformly" part of that industry due to abuse, and some women DO freely chose to prostitute themselves.

Jesus Christ.
 

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In current society, many people talk about that it is exploitation when a women is a porn movie,or other part of the sex industry,even if it is her own choice. Yet a man who has no other choice but to enlist in the military and go to war,is not considered exploited by the govt. The govt uses a lot of deceitful recruiting tactics,to get soldiers to fight the wars,where only the elites will benefit. I think it is time for military recruitment tactics to be considered exploitation of men.

A Military recruitment ad that used to be shown in the united states:
YouTube - Marine Corps - "Knight" [Extended Version]

This is one from Russia:
YouTube - Russian Military Commercial
quite right sir, apples ARE oranges. hear, hear!
 

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Are you trying to tell me that for a man to have sex with mulitiple women is something to be 'endured'?
in some cases, it may well be.
But the reverse is equally untrue and it seems to be suggested a lot on this thread. Why would a woman have to "endure" having sex with lots of men?
 

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in some cases, it may well be.
But the reverse is equally untrue and it seems to be suggested a lot on this thread. Why would a woman have to "endure" having sex with lots of men?
Let's just get rid of some myths shall we?
I have been with lots of women.
Women endure constant sexual advances, constant stares and constant threats from men. Very beautiful women would actually prefer they were ugly because of the sleaze balls who pester them constantly.
Given the choice the overwhelming majority of women want only one man, they don't like double penetration or triple penetration, straight women don't like having sex with other women they just met before their partner joins in, they don't like men they just met to ejaculate on their face and they don't like having sex with multiple men they just met at the same time.
Porn is conceived for deeply insecure men who are disastrous with women - they can't approach them, chat them up, take them or have a relationship and as a result have a deep hatred for women.
They are they type of scum who pay for sex or ogle women in strip clubs.
Porn is rape - the women in porn are abused, beaten, drugged and terrorized and the men who watch porn are voyeur rapists.
Women in the porn industry die of drug overdoses - due taking painkillers for torn vaginas and anuses or to escape their psychological self-destruction - die of alcoholism, are murdered or commit suicide.
All because of scummy sleaze balls who can't attract women like proper gentlemen do and use force to get their way.
 

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Let's just get rid of some myths shall we?
I have been with lots of women.
Women endure constant sexual advances, constant stares and constant threats from men. Very beautiful women would actually prefer they were ugly because of the sleaze balls who pester them constantly.
Given the choice the overwhelming majority of women want only one man, they don't like double penetration or triple penetration, straight women don't like having sex with other women they just met before their partner joins in, they don't like men they just met to ejaculate on their face and they don't like having sex with multiple men they just met at the same time.
Porn is conceived for deeply insecure men who are disastrous with women - they can't approach them, chat them up, take them or have a relationship and as a result have a deep hatred for women.
They are they type of scum who pay for sex or ogle women in strip clubs.
Porn is rape - the women in porn are abused, beaten, drugged and terrorized and the men who watch porn are voyeur rapists.
Women in the porn industry die of drug overdoses - due taking painkillers for torn vaginas and anuses or to escape their psychological self-destruction - die of alcoholism, are murdered or commit suicide.
All because of scummy sleaze balls who can't attract women like proper gentlemen do and use force to get their way.
Isn't it the people that tell them its bad,the ones causing them to commit suicide,not the actually porn industry? Its just like victims of child molestion the media does as much harm as the molester if not more. If you keep telling someone they are a victim,and something bad has happened to them,then they are going to be affected by it.
 

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Absolute BS.
I'm sorry but your condescending attitude toward women involved in the porn industry is just as bad as the sexism aimed toward women in the work place. Women are not helpless, they can look after themselves and believe it or nt some of them even have the capacity to make their own decisions without being "abuse".

Your attitude is both insulting and ignorant. Some women go into porn, prostitution or stripping because they see it as a revenue generating exercise. Some women set their own agenda when it comes to porn. Some only do women, others don't do anal etc.
 


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