Portland bakery refuses to serve African American woman, who'd have thunk that pastries would be the front line....

Betson

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Not surprised the bakery is owned by two gay people , the gays tend to be very racist and misogynistic.

No black person in this day and age should ever be refused service or even charged for a service , but gays in general are well known for valuing money and material things over everything else.

Good to see the Russians will be on the ball during the world cup.

www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/world-cup-2018/russian-world-cup-security-volunteers-if-two-men-are-kissing-each-other-we-will-tip-off-the-police-36986218.html
 


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Since when are white supremacists concerned with principled reporting?

According to that bakery's FB response to being trolled by them, here's what happened.

It officially closes at 9pm. The store was still busy and serving.

The two whites at issue walked in 5 minutes past 9. They were heartily offered 'to go' orders. The 'Open' sign had already been turned over to 'Closed'. They were also allowed to remain and chat long after receiving their orders.

The black woman walked in one minute past the two white ones (six minutes past official closing) and was loudly refused service in front of the white customers including those two late ones.

All of that was captured on camera.

Ohe of the two employees was probationary and the other was already on disciplinary warnings for poor service.

Lillian Green, the black woman, is not a "professional equity activist" as being smeared, but an accomplished and productive person working as the Equity Director at the Early Learning Division at the Oregon Department of Education.
AN INTERVIEW WITH LILLIAN GREEN
The bakery's account (since deleted) is here.

https://web.archive.org/web/2018052....com/backtoedenbakery/posts/10156247917969043

9.03 Staff turned off "open" sign (presumably in the window, or on the door?).
9.04 2 white women walk in and join the queue to be served. Customers present are told bakery is now officially closed.
9.06 The black woman walks and is told they are closed.

The fact is that owners were satisfied that the decision not to serve her was not made out of rascism. There was no racism here.

Yet the owners sacked the 2 staff concerned, then issued a series of cringing apologies to this black activist. Pathetic.
 

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Not surprised the bakery is owned by two gay people , the gays tend to be very racist and misogynistic.

No black person in this day and age should ever be refused service or even charged for a service , but gays in general are well known for valuing money and material things over everything else.

Good to see the Russians will be on the ball during the world cup.

www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/world-cup-2018/russian-world-cup-security-volunteers-if-two-men-are-kissing-each-other-we-will-tip-off-the-police-36986218.html
She wasn't refused service. The shop had shut, the staff were finishing off orders that had been placed before it shut. She got arse ache about that and decided that she'd been discriminated against. Fook her, she's little else to be worried about if she's that pathetic. What were they supposed to do, keep working and serve her simply because she was black?
 

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The bakery's account (since deleted) is here.

https://web.archive.org/web/2018052....com/backtoedenbakery/posts/10156247917969043

9.03 Staff turned off "open" sign (presumably in the window, or on the door?).
9.04 2 white women walk in and join the queue to be served. Customers present are told bakery is now officially closed.
9.06 The black woman walks and is told they are closed.

The fact is that owners were satisfied that the decision not to serve her was not made out of rascism. There was no racism here.

Yet the owners sacked the 2 staff concerned, then issued a series of cringing apologies to this black activist. Pathetic.
That is saying the last two white women were served. The KATU report doesn't mention that. My God though the language in that piece is like something from a different (future) century. They literally cannot bend over backwards far enough to (re)establish their right-on liberal credentials. It doesn't change my view a) that it probably wasn't racism b) that they could probably have handled it better at the time c) their behavior afterwards was totally over the top.
 
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Not surprised the bakery is owned by two gay people , the gays tend to be very racist and misogynistic.

No black person in this day and age should ever be refused service or even charged for a service , but gays in general are well known for valuing money and material things over everything else.

Good to see the Russians will be on the ball during the world cup.

www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/world-cup-2018/russian-world-cup-security-volunteers-if-two-men-are-kissing-each-other-we-will-tip-off-the-police-36986218.html
Good thing it wasn't the Jews you were referring to their or else you would lose your job, your house, your liberty, and your ability to pro-create.
 

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Did they come in after the black woman or before her ?
Before her, but they were in after the store had officially closed. They got served and she didn't.

It's the kind of situation that everyone experiences from time to time and would cause you mild annoyance at the time, but in the US it means racism and people losing their jobs sadly.
 

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The bakery's account (since deleted) is here.

https://web.archive.org/web/2018052....com/backtoedenbakery/posts/10156247917969043

9.03 Staff turned off "open" sign (presumably in the window, or on the door?).
9.04 2 white women walk in and join the queue to be served. Customers present are told bakery is now officially closed.
9.06 The black woman walks and is told they are closed.

The fact is that owners were satisfied that the decision not to serve her was not made out of rascism. There was no racism here.

Yet the owners sacked the 2 staff concerned, then issued a series of cringing apologies to this black activist. Pathetic.
I am going with what is posted by them now, as it is captured on camera. Whilst racism is undetermined and they give them the benefit of the doubt on intentions, at best they also note that they royally effed up on the optics of what they did and it was against their closing and customer practices, and they weren't good longstanding staff as mentioned including one with noted disciplinary problems.

They were within their rights to fire them and that's all that matters. But hey, when does that stop the snowflake white grievance monger and supremacist crowds from insisting on a whine and rant about the great oppression of whitey and n1ggerising the black woman?
 

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The bakery's account (since deleted) is here.

https://web.archive.org/web/2018052....com/backtoedenbakery/posts/10156247917969043

9.03 Staff turned off "open" sign (presumably in the window, or on the door?).
9.04 2 white women walk in and join the queue to be served. Customers present are told bakery is now officially closed.
9.06 The black woman walks and is told they are closed.


The fact is that owners were satisfied that the decision not to serve her was not made out of rascism. There was no racism here.

Yet the owners sacked the 2 staff concerned, then issued a series of cringing apologies to this black activist. Pathetic.
I can guarantee you 9.06 happens to a white person everyday without incident.
It's happened to me numerous times.
When popping into a shop after hours, I know I'm pushing my luck.
Retail is a shít job, as you're dealing with the general public.
So anyone with an ounce of cop on just goes 'ok' and leaves.

Of course racism exists, but this is not an example of it. Or at least not a clear-cut example.
The problem with screaming racism at everything is that it lowers the average incident.
It also creates a level of apathy that harms real racist incidences.

We experienced this with the North.
At the height of the troubles a cop getting murdered hit the headlines for only a day before the next atrocity took centre stage.

You win wars by choosing your battles.
Going all out on every skirmish is a recipe for losing.
 

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Haven't read into this, but in the face of it if it is accurate,this is exactly the sort of shyte that the likes of Trump can exploit for electoral gain
 

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Before her, but they were in after the store had officially closed. They got served and she didn't.

It's the kind of situation that everyone experiences from time to time and would cause you mild annoyance at the time, but in the US it means racism and people losing their jobs sadly.
You can be sure that black people experience it everyday also and don't cry racism.
 

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I am going with what is posted by them now, as it is captured on camera. Whilst racism is undetermined and they give them the benefit of the doubt on intentions, at best they also note that they royally effed up on the optics of what they did and it was against their closing and customer practices, and they weren't good longstanding staff as mentioned including one with noted disciplinary problems.

They were within their rights to fire them and that's all that matters. But hey, when does that stop the snowflake white grievance monger and supremacist crowds from insisting on a whine and rant about the great oppression of whitey and n1ggerising the black woman?
What are you talking about? The staff did nothing wrong. If you can't see that you need your meds adjusted. The owners even fell out with the black slacktivist they hired to deal with the bad PR they were getting. They fired two people because a black woman was annoyed that the rules that apply to white people apply to her. If this were a case of 2 black women being fired because a white woman complained about not having been served after closing time she'd be laughed at. But we live in an I iz black I iz discriminated against era where idiots indulge fookwits like that black customer. Sorry, we're closed, is enough for most people.
 

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Good thing it wasn't the Jews you were referring to their or else you would lose your job, your house, your liberty, and your ability to pro-create.
Imagine how mean and devious a Jewish gay would be? Absolutely off the scale, I'd say.
 

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Not surprised the bakery is owned by two gay people , the gays tend to be very racist and misogynistic.

No black person in this day and age should ever be refused service or even charged for a service , but gays in general are well known for valuing money and material things over everything else.

Good to see the Russians will be on the ball during the world cup.

www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/world-cup-2018/russian-world-cup-security-volunteers-if-two-men-are-kissing-each-other-we-will-tip-off-the-police-36986218.html
Speechless at such a lack of self awareness
 

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I am going with what is posted by them now, as it is captured on camera. Whilst racism is undetermined and they give them the benefit of the doubt on intentions, at best they also note that they royally effed up on the optics of what they did and it was against their closing and customer practices, and they weren't good longstanding staff as mentioned including one with noted disciplinary problems.

They were within their rights to fire them and that's all that matters. But hey, when does that stop the snowflake white grievance monger and supremacist crowds from insisting on a whine and rant about the great oppression of whitey and n1ggerising the black woman?
Come on now. Have you never been in that situation yourself? A store is closing. You slink in the door hoping to get served. Sometimes it works. Sometimes it doesn't. You're annoyed when it doesn't when the person in front does get served. The annoyance lasts about 45 seconds.
 

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Good thing it wasn't the Jews you were referring to their or else you would lose your job, your house, your liberty, and your ability to pro-create.
The Jews in general are a great bunch of lads , but that other crowd...
 

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The Jews in general are a great bunch of lads , but that other crowd...
Jews are great if you know how to handle them and have a lot of patience (both qualities which I possess), otherwise oh dear.....
 

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Something similar happened in a cafe in Dumbo New York last year. Almost exactly the same. Woman walks in after closing time and waitress refuses to serve her and woman starts complaining that other people are seated and being served, so why isn't she being served.

She then turns it into a race issue and films everything on her camera phone. Like in this story, the owner throws the waitress under a bus and fires her.

It seems to be that if you are closed and someone is looking to be served and that person is black, then you are putting your job on the line if you refuse them. You have to serve them even if the business is closed, or be called a racist and possibly fired.
 

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I am going with what is posted by them now, as it is captured on camera. Whilst racism is undetermined and they give them the benefit of the doubt on intentions, at best they also note that they royally effed up on the optics of what they did and it was against their closing and customer practices, and they weren't good longstanding staff as mentioned including one with noted disciplinary problems.

They were within their rights to fire them and that's all that matters. But hey, when does that stop the snowflake white grievance monger and supremacist crowds from insisting on a whine and rant about the great oppression of whitey and n1ggerising the black woman?
Come on - you have more sense than this! Did you read the cringing apology from the owners, clearly dictated by some activist, where they apologise for their own shop (gentrifying the area), apologise for their first (cringing) apology - which included reaching out to this woman and offering to discuss it with her, as apparently this would put an even greater "emotional burden" on her...?:roll:

The behavior of these owners was spineless, pathetic, laughable - when I read that apology first I actually thought it had to be a wind-up/satire.

They may have been within their rights to fire them, but was it right to to so?

Surely it was enough here to apologise to the woman, saying they regret she wasn't served due to the fact that they hadn't communicated a sufficiently clear closing time policy to their staff, and invite her in for a free meal/whatever? That's all I would have done.
 


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