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Re: Sarah Palin, a climate change denier

Of course she doesn't think it's man made. Everything is part of God's plan
 

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infamous-el-guapo said:
Of course she doesn't think it's man made. Everything is part of God's plan
:mrgreen: :mrgreen:
Liberal Ireland, what will they think of next.
 

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JCSkinner said:
Thread title is misleading. She hasn't denied climate change at all, simply questioned the contemporary faith-based religion that it is anthropogenic.
Is Sammy Wilson your real name?
 

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essexboy said:
JCSkinner said:
Thread title is misleading. She hasn't denied climate change at all, simply questioned the contemporary faith-based religion that it is anthropogenic.
Is Sammy Wilson your real name?
Even a stopped clock is right sometimes. Sammy is a notorious clothes-shunning Paisley-dating madman, whose lunacy down the years has been so entertaining that I used to keep a collection of the crazy utterances he made as a councillor in Belfast City Hall for their entertainment value.
But he's on the money this time. The big nuclear reactor in the sky, the history of climate on this planet, and the ever-shifting theorems of the true 'global cool-, um, global warm-, um climate change' believers all indicate that.
 
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JCSkinner said:
Thread title is misleading. She hasn't denied climate change at all, simply questioned the contemporary faith-based religion that it is anthropogenic.


:roll:

Not faith-based. Peer-reviewed.

Now the religion that claims it is absolutely not anthropogenic is blind faith, mainly because not one scientist has ever forwarded this hypothesis in a peer-reviewed journal.

I don't believe there is any hydrogen in water. But the evil scientists won't let me publish my theory in a peer-reviewed journal. It's clearly a conspiracy.
 

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BaudrillardNeverExisted said:
JCSkinner said:
Thread title is misleading. She hasn't denied climate change at all, simply questioned the contemporary faith-based religion that it is anthropogenic.


:roll:

Not faith-based. Peer-reviewed.
:roll:
Like global cooling was peer reviewed until the world kept getting warmer. And global warming was peer reviewed until the world began cooling and getting wetter.
Scientific research goes where the funding money tells it to. And that's why there's no end of underfunded researchers keen to slap a climate change angle onto their pet projects, and that's how the faith propagates.
But there are plenty of scientists out there brave enough to state that this faith is junk science. And their bravery is all the more valid for the fact that they don't get beefy government grants for saying so. If anything, they face pariahship from their bought colleagues for their heresy in insisting on evidence instead of speculative modelling.
 

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JCSkinner said:
Like global cooling was peer reviewed until the world kept getting warmer. And global warming was peer reviewed until the world began cooling and getting wetter.
Scientific research goes where the funding money tells it to. And that's why there's no end of underfunded researchers keen to slap a climate change angle onto their pet projects, and that's how the faith propagates.
But there are plenty of scientists out there brave enough to state that this faith is junk science. And their bravery is all the more valid for the fact that they don't get beefy government grants for saying so. If anything, they face pariahship from their bought colleagues for their heresy in insisting on evidence instead of speculative modelling.
And of course you've loads of examples of this funding bias to share with us?
 
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But there are plenty of scientists out there brave enough to state that this faith is junk science.
And not a single one of them has published anything claiming that in a peer-reviewed journal. Reviewers don't have to agree with a theory for it to be published. They just check that the scientific method is rigourous.

If climate change was definitely not anthropogenic, surely someone somewhere would be able to provide a competent theory supporting this. So far, nobody has. And money is not the problem, the government of Saudi Arabia (not to mention dozens of oil and energy companies) would be thrilled to provide funding for a scientist that would disprove anthropogenic climate change.

As an aside, the causes of climate change are not really the issue we should be concentrating on. The consequences are far more relevant. It doesn't matter what is causing climate change, the fact remains that it is changing very rapidly relative to any time in the past 9,000 years and we are going to have to adjust to it.
 

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A bit more rain and no doubt that'll be the next hare-brained prediction from the people who brought us global cooling, global warming and climate change (as if it ever didn't!).
 

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The Lady is for self sufficiency in energy and if you ask me, right now, a US becoming self sufficient in energy is more important than global warming. For the longer it tramples around in the Middle East the greater the risk of a major war. She is not against alternative energy. I think she is a realist.
 
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So you'd rather believe

Martin Durkin studied ancient and medieval history at University College London and economic history at the London School of Economics.
..than say, someone who studied science. I suppose you ask your dentist for legal advice. Do you go get your mechanic to do your taxes? How about an electrician for an eye-test?
 

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BaudrillardNeverExisted said:
So you'd rather believe

Martin Durkin studied ancient and medieval history at University College London and economic history at the London School of Economics.
..than say, someone who studied science. I suppose you ask your dentist for legal advice. Do you go get your mechanic to do your taxes? How about an electrician for an eye-test?
No, I'd rather believe the scientists he references and quotes, especially in relation to the subject matter in hand, which is how the funding of science is skewed towards requiring accomodation of anthropogenic climate change.
Do you go to accountants for your witticisms? Because they sure read that way.
 

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