President promoting Narco Terrorists?

johnny365

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President Michael D Higgins has long been known as a champagne socialist, but of late he has gone in a far left direction with the presidency and seems to be moulding the presidency in his own image. If his not praising brutal dictators his meeting "reformed" narco terrorists.

Is he destroying the presidency by using it to push his champagne socialism. Meeting FARC leaders and travelling to a camp for former FARC thugs and being the the first foreign leader to do so.Is he giving farc thugs legitimacy by doing so? FARC is a brutal drugs gang who lest we not forget had close ties with the PIRA who murdered Gardai and public servants of the state D Higgins is head of.

Personally I find him using the presidency to drive is far left ideology as dangerous and I'm very surprised at the lack of media analysis of the visit. Also I find it ludicrous that a state in our position is giving €19 million to the Colombian peace process.

https://www.rte.ie/news/2017/0212/852024-president-higgins-colombia/
 
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This is nothing new, Johnny. Michael D was always fond of an left-wing foray.

He caused quite a stir back in the mid-80s when he had Daniel Ortega around to the house for tea and biscuits.
 

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He's meeting with these people with the permission of the government of Colombia. He's also making speeches about how lessons can be learned from the peace process in NI etc.

Did Higgins play any role in the peace process here?
 

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He's meeting with these people with the permission of the government of Colombia. He's also making speeches about how lessons can be learned from the peace process in NI etc.

Did Higgins play any role in the peace process here?
None that I'm aware of ,but it's a lot easier to preach when you can relax in the comfort of knowing you will never be asked to do anything. I think this is poor taste and shows his continuing intentions to use the presidency to push his far left ideology. Th fact that farc have links with the PIRA who murdered public servants in the state he is head of makes it even more troubling.

It seems Higgins tramples all over diplomacy to push his far left agenda, the media doesn't pick up on this because the vast majority of the media here is also pushing a left agenda. If a right wing president was pushing his/her agenda in the same way that D Higgins is then the media would be up in arms about the damage they were doing to the office.
 

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None that I'm aware of ,but it's a lot easier to preach when you can relax in the comfort of knowing you will never be asked to do anything. I think this it is poor taste and shows his continuing intentions to use the presidency to push his far left ideology. Th fact that farc have links with the PIRA who murdered public servants in the state he is head of makes it even more troubling.

It seems Higgins tramples all over diplomacy to push his far left agenda, the media doesn't pick up on this because the vast majority of the media here is also pushing a left agenda. If a right wing president was pushing his/her agenda in the same way that D Higgins is then the media would be up in arms about the damage they were doing to the office.
PIRA have long ago decommissioned their weapons and disbanded, and that also seems to be the process that FARC are now going through too. That, presumably, is why the Colombian government invited him and the Irish government agreed to accept the invitation.

I don't have a problem with what he's doing, it just strikes me as ironic that he's suddenly an expert in the peace process when he actually did Sweet FA to further the peace process in NI, afaik.
 

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Same old negative,repetitive shíte with some posters...

The should get themselves checked out for early onset and i'm not messing i've seen these signs before.......living in the same moment over and over and unable to accept the world and society are changing and are moving on isn't healthy.....
 

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President Michael D Higgins has long been known as a champagne socialist, but of late he has gone in a far left direction with the presidency and seems to be moulding the presidency in his own image. If his not praising brutal dictators his meeting "reformed" narco terrorists.

Is he destroying the presidency by using it to push his champagne socialism. Meeting FARC leaders and travelling to a camp for former FARC thugs and being the the first foreign leader to do so.Is he giving farc thugs legitimacy by doing so? FARC is a brutal drugs gang who lest we not forget had close ties with the PIRA who murdered Gardai and public servants of the state D Higgins is head of.

Personally I find him using the presidency to drive is far left ideology as dangerous and I'm very surprised at the lack of media analysis of the visit. Also I find it ludicrous that a state in our position is giving €19 million to the Colombian peace process.

https://www.rte.ie/news/2017/0212/852024-president-higgins-colombia/
I wonder what would the media reaction be were President Higgins to meet with President Trump. Not even some bilateral meeting but even an accidental meeting at say, some state funeral for a world leader.
 
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I wonder what would the media reaction be were President Higgins to meet with President Trump. Not even some bilateral meeting but even an accidental meeting at say, some state funeral for a world leader.
The Tweeter meets the Twee.
 

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None that I'm aware of ,but it's a lot easier to preach when you can relax in the comfort of knowing you will never be asked to do anything. I think this is poor taste and shows his continuing intentions to use the presidency to push his far left ideology. Th fact that farc have links with the PIRA who murdered public servants in the state he is head of makes it even more troubling.

It seems Higgins tramples all over diplomacy to push his far left agenda, the media doesn't pick up on this because the vast majority of the media here is also pushing a left agenda. If a right wing president was pushing his/her agenda in the same way that D Higgins is then the media would be up in arms about the damage they were doing to the office.



This little leprechaun should not be taken too seriously. He is doing more than any other president of this State , or Failte Ireland,to restore the wholesome image of Ireland as the Emerald Isle of the Blarney stone and the barefoot Connemara maiden loading turf on the aul donkeys backs in the shadow of venerated Croagh Patrick. This little pip squeak, who considers himself to be one of the great visionaries of our time, is actually on a par with his arch enemy De Valera and projects a long lost image of an Ireland long ago. But don't shoot the golden goose - there will be fools out there who will pay good money to come here to gawk at quaint goblinlike 19th century superstitious peasants as portrayed by our Arch Hobbit Higgins.
 

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This little leprechaun should not be taken too seriously. He is doing more than any other president of this State , or Failte Ireland,to restore the wholesome image of Ireland as the Emerald Isle of the Blarney stone and the barefoot Connemara maiden loading turf on the aul donkeys backs in the shadow of venerated Croagh Patrick. This little pip squeak, who considers himself to be one of the great visionaries of our time, is actually on a par with his arch enemy De Valera and projects a long lost image of an Ireland long ago. But don't shoot the golden goose - there will be fools out there who will pay good money to come here to gawk at quaint goblinlike 19th century superstitious peasants as portrayed by our Arch Hobbit Higgins.
I'm sensing a little hostility.
 

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Personally I find him using the presidency to drive is far left ideology as dangerous and I'm very surprised at the lack of media analysis of the visit. Also I find it ludicrous that a state in our position is giving €19 million to the Colombian peace process.

https://www.rte.ie/news/2017/0212/852024-president-higgins-colombia/
i was going to post on the aid issue on another thread when I found on esuitbale.

I nearly choked on my coffee while riding home tonight in a cab with the world service on my earphones to hear of Irelands generosity.

I do think that foreign aid has a place on our priorities. It is cruel world and it is a good thing to recognize and try to alleviate the extreme suffering and deprivation that people with no support face.

But the issue with giving money, outside of specific distasters or calamities, to most countries ( i.e. all but the poorest and most ravaged) is that you end up with relatively disadvantaged and moderately financially stable people in ireland minimizing the contributions of very wealthy people in the recipient nations.

Colombia, with its ivy league educated president is a case in point. Like most Latin american nations it has a proportionally small but still significant in number middle and upper class whose lifestyles,assets and expectations are on a par or in excess of those in even the leafier suburbs in ireland and other western nations.

even in the case of the refugee crisis I think that careful sructiny needs to be made of the assets and abilities of those migrating to contribute to their own and the compatriots welfare. I am have, through work, a large extended personal circle of friends from the levant, north afirca and the general middle east. Many have second passports via various favorable immigration and refugee programs that their families have taken advantage of. 99% had far more comfortable childhoods and have far more familial assets than I or my equivalents - we weren't poor but like most poeple in ireland my mother watched what she spent in dunnes or quinssworth or , god forbid, crazy prices - but my buddies with childhoods surrounded by multiple family business', german executive cars and maids are the ones who are viewed as migrants in need by western eyes.

Ultimately generosity is commendable, but just like the poor dispossessed native americans wo scrapped dimes together to send to ireland in the 1840's , it would be better if those with means in such places were encouraged, and more, to do the contributing , be they victorian land owners or modern day columbia bourgeois in pastel Polo shirts and designer sunglasses
 

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The President needs a brother like Corbyns brother Piers so that he ends up looking like the sane one.
 

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President Michael D Higgins has long been known as a champagne socialist, but of late he has gone in a far left direction with the presidency and seems to be moulding the presidency in his own image. If his not praising brutal dictators his meeting "reformed" narco terrorists.

Is he destroying the presidency by using it to push his champagne socialism. Meeting FARC leaders and travelling to a camp for former FARC thugs and being the the first foreign leader to do so.Is he giving farc thugs legitimacy by doing so? FARC is a brutal drugs gang who lest we not forget had close ties with the PIRA who murdered Gardai and public servants of the state D Higgins is head of.

Personally I find him using the presidency to drive is far left ideology as dangerous and I'm very surprised at the lack of media analysis of the visit. Also I find it ludicrous that a state in our position is giving €19 million to the Colombian peace process.

https://www.rte.ie/news/2017/0212/852024-president-higgins-colombia/
No comment on your Sticky leader going out to Colombia?

Eamon Gilmore is new EU peace envoy to Colombia - Independent.ie
 

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This little leprechaun should not be taken too seriously. He is doing more than any other president of this State , or Failte Ireland,to restore the wholesome image of Ireland as the Emerald Isle of the Blarney stone and the barefoot Connemara maiden loading turf on the aul donkeys backs in the shadow of venerated Croagh Patrick. This little pip squeak, who considers himself to be one of the great visionaries of our time, is actually on a par with his arch enemy De Valera and projects a long lost image of an Ireland long ago. But don't shoot the golden goose - there will be fools out there who will pay good money to come here to gawk at quaint goblinlike 19th century superstitious peasants as portrayed by our Arch Hobbit Higgins.
So should we put you down as a Labour voter or undecided?

Labour President supports nascent peace process in another country, Johnny the Labour supporter sees the RA and goes on the attack....figures.Whatever about the peace, Johnny sure misses the war. Johnny should join the dissos. Don't be like Johnny, kids.
Are FARC narco terrorists paying him like they paid the PIRA assassins who helped them murder Colombian nuns? The papal nuncio in Dublin - his household staff are Colombian nuns. They could tell you stories about the death squads PIRA mercenaries trained.
 

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President Michael D Higgins has long been known as a champagne socialist, but of late he has gone in a far left direction with the presidency and seems to be moulding the presidency in his own image. If his not praising brutal dictators his meeting "reformed" narco terrorists.

Is he destroying the presidency by using it to push his champagne socialism. Meeting FARC leaders and travelling to a camp for former FARC thugs and being the the first foreign leader to do so.Is he giving farc thugs legitimacy by doing so? FARC is a brutal drugs gang who lest we not forget had close ties with the PIRA who murdered Gardai and public servants of the state D Higgins is head of.

Personally I find him using the presidency to drive is far left ideology as dangerous and I'm very surprised at the lack of media analysis of the visit. Also I find it ludicrous that a state in our position is giving €19 million to the Colombian peace process.

https://www.rte.ie/news/2017/0212/852024-president-higgins-colombia/
As usual with the LP, he's betrayed all of the beliefs of his youth, but at least on this occasion he got it exactly right.

Fair play to him.
 


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