'Priest banned from writing'



USER1234

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What a surprise, a priest has a sensible view on homosexuality and the church attacks him for it!!!
 
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I can understand how any thinking person could have faith, and a catholic one at that, I respect that, but I really can't understand how any person who has the capacity to have two thoughts simultaneously could pledge allegiance to that corrupt, paedophile-protecting totalitarian nest of vipers that is the institutional church.
 

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I can understand how any thinking person could have faith, and a catholic one at that, I respect that, but I really can't understand how any person who has the capacity to have two thoughts simultaneously could pledge allegiance to that corrupt, paedophile-protecting totalitarian nest of vipers that is the institutional church.
I agree (although I would not have used such strong language to describe the church) I was raised a catholic and I have faith in god however I have stopped going to church as I don't believe in the way the church is run and am sickened by the constant scandals of recent years!!!!
 

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You expect to find sense from people who believe in invisible men in the sky?
 

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Hey I believe in the invisible men in the sky (I would not put it that way though) and I'm a sensible guy!!!
Don't worry, I'm not going to turn this into a 'does god exist' thread, I'm just curious; are you a deist, a pantheist or a theist. If you are a theist, are you signed up to the whole Jesus thing?
 

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Don't worry, I'm not going to turn this into a 'does god exist' thread, I'm just curious; are you a deist, a pantheist or a theist. If you are a theist, are you signed up to the whole Jesus thing?
I don't know the distinctions very well but from the quick research iv done i say im a theist and yes I do believe in Jesus!!!
 

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USER1234 said:
I don't know the distinctions very well but from the quick research iv done i say im a theist and yes I do believe in Jesus!!!
Do you believe he was the son of god and that he lived, died and was raised from the dead for the redemption of our sins and in order to win eternal life for those who accept him as saviour?
 

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Do you believe he was the son of god and that he lived, died and was raised from the dead for the redemption of our sins and in order to win eternal life for those who accept him as saviour?
Yes, (though I doubt he care if we accepted him as saviour or not as long as we lead good lives)!!!
 

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Do you believe he was the son of god and that he lived, died and was raised from the dead for the redemption of our sins and in order to win eternal life for those who accept him as saviour?
Why should believing all the above have to be any sort of touchstone? The theologians have mostly abandoned belief in resurrection and atonement, as have more educated laity. Maybe it's time the church authorities admitted that the myths were for another time and culture and go back to drawing-board and produce more honest liturgies for various church ceremonies instead of forcing the few churchgoers left to say things at Masses and Services that don't make sense in this day and age.
 

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Why should believing all the above have to be any sort of touchstone? The theologians have mostly abandoned belief in resurrection and atonement, as have more educated laity. Maybe it's time the church authorities admitted that the myths were for another time and culture and go back to drawing-board and produce more honest liturgies for various church ceremonies instead of forcing the few churchgoers left to say things at Masses and Services that don't make sense in this day and age.
So what make up more fantasies to suit the modern sophisticated mind?
 

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No, forget the fantasies but maybe re-write the liturgical texts with the help of a poet like Paul Durcan to make them sound well and to give folks the chance to celebrate being alive and express gratitude, hope, aspirations to be kind - the things that make us human - if they want to. But all this seems off-topic. RCC doesn't seem to want to deal truthfully with ANYTHING.
 

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No, forget the fantasies but maybe re-write the liturgical texts with the help of a poet like Paul Durcan to make them sound well and to give folks the chance to celebrate being alive and express gratitude, hope, aspirations to be kind - the things that make us human - if they want to.
You and Paul Durcan would be better off starting your own, new religion.
 

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perhaps you should join a Unitarian church rather than expecting a 1500 year old institution to change
 

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Why should believing all the above have to be any sort of touchstone? The theologians have mostly abandoned belief in resurrection and atonement, as have more educated laity. Maybe it's time the church authorities admitted that the myths were for another time and culture and go back to drawing-board and produce more honest liturgies for various church ceremonies instead of forcing the few churchgoers left to say things at Masses and Services that don't make sense in this day and age.
It's been tried before;

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His dead on about homosexuality being a facet of human nature etc., but I'm disconcerted to find out I mustn't be Irish after all:

‘There’s nothing in itself wrong with being Irish... But that doesn’t mean you may act on it. So, no more Guinness, going to Croke Park, singing rebel songs into the early hours of the morning, waving Tricolours, no more craic.”
I don't do any of those things, and, Guinness excepted, never did.
 


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