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Prime Ministers Questions - Westminster


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due to being housebound with the god damn flu, I mamanged to catch a glimpse at Prime ?Ministers Questions on bbc2 earlier. what a load of drivel. And to think I thought our Ministers etc were bad!

On numerous occasions an opposition MP asked him a question about an issue, Blair then simplt stodd up and said 'We spent x amount on this, while the Conservatives only spend Y amount last time they were in power' and so forth, totally ignoring the question moriginally put to him and not in the elast answering it at all. then we had some Labour MP's standing up to basically say ' I noticed that the prime minister patted himself on the back over x issue, I think it is only proper that the Prime minister pats himself on the back somemore, and will he reassure the British Public, that he is still quite adapt at back patting'

I feel sorry for the British electorate. It's not that often an MP would get to ask Mr. Blair a question on something during Prime Ministers Questions, and instead of asking him about a genuine and important constituency issue, they merely engage in another bout of extreme ass licking.

The British Electorate must be envious of us that our ministers give half answers to questions instead of constantly trying to avoid the question asked in its entirety!
 

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Yes, its bad - but you've got to admit that its better than the organised, scripted tedium that is Taoiseach's Questions here - where you can actually hear Ministerial paper-shuffling while Ahern drones on, such is the funereal atmosphere.

(By the way, how many thousand were at your meeting in the Plaza last night, where your party were due to demand that other parties take action to protect services at Tallaght Hospital? It may have escaped your notice, but FG and Labour in DSW have been sitting on this issue for several months now.... :lol: )
 

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Larkinite said:
The British Electorate must be envious of us that our ministers give half answers to questions instead of constantly trying to avoid the question asked in its entirety!
:lol:

Most barely know who their own MP is, have never watched PM Question Time except for the bits that appear on the main news & know sweet f all about how your ministers conduct themselves. 95% couldn't even name the An Taoiseach
 

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Also housebound with the flu - saw Dáil Live this morning on RTE and also PMQ on the Daily POlitics just after it.

PMQ is more entertaining but the structure is such that the substance is almost always lacking.

The Dáil is exactly the opposite. All substance but rare examples of entertainment - the odd quip from Higgins or Rabbitte or backbenchers.

I think the behaviour of the TD's - maybe it was just this morning - is particularly childish though. Deputy Cuffe needed a cuff to the back of the head this morning it was so tantrum-like.

I thought Kenny asked his questions well but faced with what seemed to be informed and focussed answers kind of lost his way - maybe that's why the barracking started. Thought Rabbitte did alot better. Sargent looks like someone who likes playing the game of party leader as opposed to a genuine opposition battler.

And before anyone says it I know the Dáil is not supposed to be entertaining - but Yes Minister wasn't on til 220.
 

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Well I hope that wehn Ritchie O' Reilly asks Brian and Enda to sign the pledge, that they both will.

We have been activie supporters of the Tallaght Hospital campaign for quite a while too, and indeed our literature has been full of stuff on Tallaght Hospital as well.

Difference is, that we will be continuing to support the campaign well after the general Election, whereas is Labour or FG got elected they will no ndoubt continue were FF and the PD's have left off on the issue.

We also feel that Crumlin should be left open too.
 

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Larkinite said:
Well I hope that wehn Ritchie O' Reilly asks Brian and Enda to sign the pledge, that they both will.
Depends, what does the pledge actually say? If it involves maintaining Tallaght's status as a National Children's Hospital, I'm sure they'll have no problem - given that they've already said that in public on many occasions. If on the other hand it involves maintaining Tallaght Hospital within a Marxist state or something, that might be different. :lol:

We have been activie supporters of the Tallaght Hospital campaign for quite a while too, and indeed our literature has been full of stuff on Tallaght Hospital as well.
I'm not saying you haven't - I saw ye at the rally, after all. But I thought your posters for the meeting this week were a bit silly, as they sought to imply that other parties had nothing to say on the issue. Now I know every party tries to talk up its involvement in something like this, but no-one in DSW will have been taken in by your posters - you'd need to be deaf, blind, and probably dead too, not to know that Labour, and FG in particular have put this issue at the centre of their campaigning since last autumn.

Difference is, that we will be continuing to support the campaign well after the general Election, whereas is Labour or FG got elected they will no ndoubt continue were FF and the PD's have left off on the issue.
You see, with all due respect, thats just b*llsh*t. You like to say it, because it suits your party's view that "oh, all the "establishment" parties are the same, we're the only ones who REALLY stand up for the people" - but your wrong. FG have committed to having two national children's hospitals in Dublin - one on the Northside, and one on the Southside - the one on the Southside being Tallaght. They've said it often enough, and loudly enough - its a commitment they'll have no problem upholding.


One other question - I don't doubt your commitment to this issue, so tell me this - will you be transferring your vote to ALL candidates who have pledged to keep the National Children's Hospital in Tallaght? Last time I checked, those candidates were Rabbitte, Hayes, Davidson and Crowe. Will you transfer your vote to all those candidates, ahead of the Government TDs?
 

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I due to irregular work practises ,used to watch daily politics alot and PMQ
It is far more entertaining than sessions from the dail, this probably due with the different structures of parliament, there are more parties in the dail obviously and while ireland focuses mainly on very local issues in Westminster they focuses on the bigger issues

And UK politics is far more entertaining, its mainly just the people involved in the UK they are more charismatic, take a look at News Night (BBC2 22.30) with Jeremy Paxman
and I would much prefer to watch The UK this week ( a carry on from dail politics, on thursday nights) with Michael Portillo and Diane Abbott Abbott
Than the irish Week in Politics which nearly puts me to sleep.

There current affairs programmes are just more entertaining and better done
 

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[video=youtube;m-0nHUoWhR4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-0nHUoWhR4[/video]

One of the best PMQs in a while. I don't pretend that this is constructive debate. But the skill of Cameron and Miliband is superior to anything that would be seen in Ireland.

Also, note the respect for Bercow.

[video=youtube;_wZX_Jfvm_Y]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wZX_Jfvm_Y[/video]

That would never be accepted.
 

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Thy've got this really refreshing thing though when the cameras arn't rollimg. Get this.... When someone in public office does something wrong they put them behind bars. Radical Eh? Happpens in Europe generally I'm told.
 

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One of the best PMQs in a while. I don't pretend that this is constructive debate. But the skill of Cameron and Miliband is superior to anything that would be seen in Ireland.

Also, note the respect for Bercow.
That would never be accepted.
Really odd that Cameron, who is normally on top of things, forgot about Virginia Wade!
 

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Really odd that Cameron, who is normally on top of things, forgot about Virginia Wade!
I think you're mistaken: it's Boris who's usually on top of things.

But I do agree. Especially considering he's a genuine tennis fan.
 
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[One of the best PMQs in a while. I don't pretend that this is constructive debate. But the skill of Cameron and Miliband is superior to anything that would be seen in Ireland. Also, note the respect for Bercow.
Any show of respect for Squeaker Bercow is to be marvelled at frankly.
 

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Cameron is dreadful here.

He's speaking of unions - Supported by millions of British people - as if they're some sort of foreign entity whilst his own party is, in fact, funded to the tune of 25 million from foreign hedge funds whilst giving them a tax cut. Bizarre idiotic logic.

He also ruled out maximum donations of 5 grand and second jobs for MPs with second jobber himself (Hague) sitting next to him after becoming a multi multi millionaire from second jobs when he was in opposition.

An idiotic Prime Minister.
 

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Cameron is dreadful here.

He's speaking of unions - Supported by millions of British people - as if they're some sort of foreign entity whilst his own party is, in fact, funded to the tune of 25 million from foreign hedge funds whilst giving them a tax cut. Bizarre idiotic logic.

He also ruled out maximum donations of 5 grand and second jobs for MPs with second jobber himself (Hague) sitting next to him after becoming a multi multi millionaire from second jobs when he was in opposition.

An idiotic Prime Minister.
Not as idiotic as you!!

Ed Miliband: I may stop MPs having lucrative second jobs - Telegraph

In a bid to put pressure back on the Tories over the issue of MPs with second jobs, Mr Miliband pledged to impose limits on outside earnings.

“The British people must be reassured that their MPs are working for them,” Mr Miliband said. “Being an MP should not be a sideline. It’s a privilege and a duty. And the rules must reflect that.”
He added: “Can it be right that the rules allow MPs to earn hundreds of thousands of pounds from private legal practice while they are supposed to be an MP?

“Or from outside corporations without any real form of regulation? We will change things in the next Parliament.
“That is why I believe that at the very least there should be new limits on outside earnings, like they have in other countries.And new rules on conflict of interests too.”

Mr Miliband called on David Cameron and Nick Clegg to “respond” to his call to stop MPs having second jobs.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/labour/10169506/David-Cameron-Milibands-second-jobs-pledge-is-a-smokescreen.html

David Cameron: Miliband's second jobs pledge is a 'smokescreen'

David Cameron has branded Ed Miliband’s proposed clampdown on MPs’ second jobs as a “smokescreen” designed to avoid Labour's issues with the trade unions.
 

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Ed Miliband Calls For Curbs On MPs' Second Jobs

Ed Miliband has called for a cap on how much MPs can earn doing second jobs.

The Labour leader raised the controversial topic in his speech on party finance on Tuesday, which had been expected to be dominated by his battle with the trade unions.

Attacking politicians who earn "hundreds of thousands of pounds" as lawyers, he said: "The British people expect their MPs to be representing them and the country not anyone else."

Pundits were quick to point out one MP who would have fallen foul of any curbs - Ed's brother David Miliband, who declared £441,821.60 earned from speeches and Sunderland FC before recently quitting Parliament to work for an American charity.
 

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Not as idiotic as you!!
:lol:

Is that the best you can do?

Pathetic.

As regards your quotes. . . I'm not sure what you achieved there and I don't think you know either.

Clearly the British PM is more concerned with foreign hedge funds (who own his arse) . . . . So he gives them a tax cut whilst castigating unions . . . Who, er, are financially supported by millions of British people.
 
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