Prime Time and Late Debate 30.11 on the 'bailout'

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Starts with an error. Miriam claims the government this week entered into an agreement that binds us all.

There is no binding agreement yet. The deal has not even been written down, never mind approved. There is just a glorified press release full of generalities, with zero legal status. There is nothing binding about what has been said so far.

When and if they write it down, it has to come to the Dáil for approval there, if not to the people in a referendum.
 
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Short calls it an unsatisfactory bandage on a wider Eurozone crisis.

Brigid Laffan: 'Fuelling popular Euroscepticism' is a problem apparently.

Talk about missing the point.
 

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Michael Noonan says Chopra told him today that if we sell a state company we might be allowed to use the proceeds for what Chopra regards as a genuine stimulus package.

The mind boggles at the implications. But Miriam doesn't.
 

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Noonan confirms that FG will not seek to tear up the agreement.
 

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If we get our next 2 budgets on target and we get growth of 3%, we might be able to borrow from the bond markets again at a rate south of 5.8%. Nooonan said: "We'll be sucking Diesel". God help us. :D
 

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Kelleher says FF will not allow the Dáil to vote on this.

Over to FG Lab now. This is dictatorship, not democracy.
 

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If we get our next 2 budgets on target and we get growth of 3%, we might be able to borrow from the bond markets again at a rate south of 5.8%. Nooonan said: "We'll be sucking Diesel". God help us. :D
Yeah and then the Greens will bring in a sucking diesel tax. I think Chopra filled Noonan up with beer earlier.
 

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Oh for God's sake, can't RTE get rid of O'Callaghan. I just can't listen to that self-regarding phoney, and always end up zapping away from Proime Toime when she's presenting. In contrast, it's a pleasure listening to the smooth and unhysterical Richard Crowley.
 

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Noonan is the first opposition politician who's talking like he's on his way to office. He actually suggested there may be a way out through economic growth. He skillfully avoids looking like he's putting the boot into FFers personally whilst putting the boot into them. I wonder if Brutons demise is working to FGs advantage. Miriam, as always on these things is awful.
 

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did Noonan really say "We'll be sucking Diesel"

seriously, like, cause if he did il get my coat
 

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Laffin a paid Monnet proffessor of European studies, her job in UCD is to push her pro EU thinking through the university.. Passes herself off as just a "normal " person. Why is she on RTE? She is not objective when it comes to EU project.
She is trying a damage limitation exercise, incase the public wake up and realise people like her have got it wrong and the EU is NOT what it is made out to be......

It looks like it will be an all over EU bailout. The bondholders are not falling for it the EU is in BIG bother..

Laffin and her like should admit they have it wrong, but she is not paid to say things like that
 

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That translates to "we're sucking diesel" in FG language.
He sounds like FF, actually LAB/FG are beginning to sound like FF/GP ,whats the point in an election then.

Just call it a dictatorship and be done with it .

And all those who wanted Brussels to rule over ,hope yee have a ball.
 

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Noonan is the first opposition politician who's talking like he's on his way to office. He actually suggested there may be a way out through economic growth. He skillfully avoids looking like he's putting the boot into FFers personally whilst putting the boot into them. I wonder if Brutons demise is working to FGs advantage. Miriam, as always on these things is awful.
The problem is people are not wise enough to understand that. Unless they he is arguing with rhetoric and not substance, most ordinary joes will dislike Noonan.
 


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