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cyberianpan

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5. he created the National Stabilisation Fund and the National Welfare Fund which allowed trillions of dollars from the sale of gas to underwrite economic stability
Have you checked their balances lately ?

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Yelstein spent most of his premiereship asleep or drunk

You might want to check Russia's financial health btw ... it ain't rosy

cyp
It's healthier than what it was 10 years ago, when 6 corrupt Jews owned 50% of Russian wealth.
 

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I just about to tell one big secret how Putin managed to unite Russian people - he simply ordered to translate Western propaganda
Everyday specially dedicated inosmi.ru or RT translating all russophobia published in Western media
I don't know what those articles, written by mentally ill people with total absence of logic, are achieving on West, apart from creating noise, but in Russia they are working completely opposite
Sometimes there is no need even to translate - just enough to show headlines, like here

Putin sends submarine into English Channel days before England vs Russia at Euro 2016 | Metro News
Vladimir Putin orchestrating Russian football hooligans to push Britain out of the EU
etc
But sometimes, Western MSM are producing real masterpieces of paranoia
Today is Washington Post
Russia’s war on drugs is hurting America


The only logical theory which I can suggest is that decriminalization of drugs created a lot of inspiration for Danielle Allen

There are enough articles in the MSM showing what nasty sleazy thugs Putin and his buddies are without needing any propaganda against the Russian Regime. Read Anna Politkovskaya's book Putin's Russia......and that was when he was at least pretending to be democratic.
 

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Neither is Germanys or Americas or Irelands :)

Look the guy has done great - one reason why the US is so furious with him.

1. He preserved the unity of the Russian Federation by , which we know is not what the US want : they favour a Confederation.
​By threats and coercion
2. He defeated the Chechen terrorists - hold on were they good Muslim terrorists?
And in the process destroying Grozny and killing 10s of thousands of people and ushering in the Brutal Kadyrov regime.

3. He strengthened Russias role internationally - moving the Federation confidently into the Big Three
There is no big 3.
4. He promoted socially oriented budgets making it clear social obligations would be fulfilled, unlike the Yeltsin years
Russia is riven with grinding poverty and is a massively unequal country.
5. he created the National Stabilisation Fund and the National Welfare Fund which allowed trillions of dollars from the sale of gas to underwrite economic stability
Handy because the economy is heading south due to an undiversified economy over reliant on commodities owend by his cronies.

6. He reformed the army and restructured the military industrial complex which was a basket case under Yeltsin
That he did. He needs a strong military to keep power.
7. he fostered integration of thr administration systems in the Russian Federation which promotes cohesion and fairness
LOL!
8. he held on to the Crimea preventing NATO from accessing Russias one warm water port
He stole the Crimea from Ukraine. Pathetic.
9 He prevented Syria from becoming another failed state and destabilising the ME entirely
Another big LOL!
10. His policies increased Russian life expectancy and health.

Life expectancy is lower now than it was in 1959.


Which western leader can say likewise?
And by the way you are a bird brain along with the two fools who liked your fact free and frankly stupid post.
 

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There are enough articles in the MSM showing what nasty sleazy thugs Putin
Today cover from National Review says everything about Western propaganda


Read Anna Politkovskaya's book Putin's Russia......and that was when he was at least pretending to be democratic.
Why should I read dusty books when everything changed last 4 years?
 

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Have you checked their balances lately ?

cYp
You will be shocked, but it is still better than in 2012

Plus Russian economy is reducing dependency from oil and Western credits
 

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Russophrenia
 

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Neither is Germanys or Americas or Irelands :)

Look the guy has done great - one reason why the US is so furious with him.

1. He preserved the unity of the Russian Federation, which we know is not what the US want : they favour a Confederation.
2. He defeated the Chechen terrorists - hold on were they good Muslim terrorists?
3. He strengthened Russias role internationally - moving the Federation confidently into the Big Three
4. He promoted socially oriented budgets making it clear social obligations would be fulfilled, unlike the Yeltsin years
5. he created the National Stabilisation Fund and the National Welfare Fund which allowed trillions of dollars from the sale of gas to underwrite economic stability
6. He reformed the army and restructured the military industrial complex which was a basket case under Yeltsin
7. he fostered integration of thr administration systems in the Russian Federation which promotes cohesion and fairness
8. he held on to the Crimea preventing NATO from accessing Russias one warm water port
9 He prevented Syria from becoming another failed state and destabilising the ME entirely
10. His policies increased Russian life expectancy and health.

Which western leader can say likewise?
Given that most of those ten "achievements" are entirely Russia-specific I'd say that's a pretty silly and irrelevant question. Few if any Western countries, almost all of which are mature, stable democracies with robust institutions and political systems, have recently required or require the kind of interventions you say Putin has had to make.
 

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Today cover from National Review says everything about Western propaganda



Why should I read dusty books when everything changed last 4 years?
Russophrenia
Putin is a brutal thug with blood on his hands. The covers reflect this. Note Putin is to whom they are referring not Russians as a whole. Your charge of Russophobia is childish and silly.
 

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Russophrenia hit The Times
 

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You'd think living 4km apart from each other Russia and the USofA would just bite the bullet and call to one another for an aul' cuppa occassionally...
 

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You'd think living 4km apart from each other Russia and the USofA would just bite the bullet and call to one another for an aul' cuppa occassionally...
Youve forgotten the Brezinzski Doctrine, which still remains the basis of US policy towards Russia (shorthand for the Russian Federation, as I know some posters like to quibble aimlessly about terminology).

On key quotes serves to illustrate what the Doctrine means. The simplistic Putiin-bashing in western media is one element in the overall strategy.

The power ruling Eurasia will control two of the most economically advanced and productive areas of the world»

This means weakening Russia's position by for example NATOs relentless eastward expansion and backing separatist movements or so-called "colour revolutions" on Russians western borders. The objective is a Balkanisation of the region into smaller states, dependent on American protection.

The corollary is that any defensive reaction by Russia to this encirclement, including the massive NATO mock-wars in the Baltics, known as training ops, will be sold as Russia is planning to restore its empire and totalitarianism.

The aim is that Russia will be faced with a non-choice - as Brezinzski put it: to be a part of Europe as well or [choose]to become a Eurasian outcast, neither truly of Europe nor Asia and mired in its ‘near abroad’ conflicts.”

A part of Europe means total fealty to the EU superstate, which is a dependent of the US. Or Russia can become irrelevant.

In practice, this can only result in escalating conflict, which Russia does not want. That is why the western media is busy softening up western opinion, so they will accept the inevitability of a permanent cold war or even a hot one with Russia.
 

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Youve forgotten the Brezinzski Doctrine, which still remains the basis of US policy towards Russia (shorthand for the Russian Federation, as I know some posters like to quibble aimlessly about terminology).

On key quotes serves to illustrate what the Doctrine means. The simplistic Putiin-bashing in western media is one element in the overall strategy.

The power ruling Eurasia will control two of the most economically advanced and productive areas of the world»

This means weakening Russia's position by for example NATOs relentless eastward expansion and backing separatist movements or so-called "colour revolutions" on Russians western borders. The objective is a Balkanisation of the region into smaller states, dependent on American protection.

The corollary is that any defensive reaction by Russia to this encirclement, including the massive NATO mock-wars in the Baltics, known as training ops, will be sold as Russia is planning to restore its empire and totalitarianism.

The aim is that Russia will be faced with a non-choice - as Brezinzski put it: to be a part of Europe as well or [choose]to become a Eurasian outcast, neither truly of Europe nor Asia and mired in its ‘near abroad’ conflicts.”

A part of Europe means total fealty to the EU superstate, which is a dependent of the US. Or Russia can become irrelevant.

In practice, this can only result in escalating conflict, which Russia does not want. That is why the western media is busy softening up western opinion, so they will accept the inevitability of a permanent cold war or even a hot one with Russia.
That's very interesting Eagle, and explains a lot of what's been going on.
 

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That's very interesting Eagle, and explains a lot of what's been going on.
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When you remove your head from your ass, and read what the State Dept itself quite publically acknowledges to be Americas longterm policy towards Russia, irrespective of who occupies the White House, you realise that Russia is simply responding to the cards they have been dealt.

Putins major achievement has probably been not allowing Russia to be intimidated or out-manoevred, and certainly in not rising to the bucketfuls of bait slapped down in front of him.

All of this is rooted in an extraordinarily arrogant view of geopolitics in which Russia is not allowed to have any interests of its own.
 

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When you remove your head from your ass, and read what the State Dept itself quite publically acknowledges to be Americas longterm policy towards Russia, irrespective of who occupies the White House, you realise that Russia is simply responding to the cards they have been dealt.

Putins major achievement has probably been not allowing Russia to be intimidated or out-manoevred, and certainly in not rising to the bucketfuls of bait slapped down in front of him.

All of this is rooted in an extraordinarily arrogant view of geopolitics in which Russia is not allowed to have any interests of its own.
American Exceptionalism - the Neocon's favourite ideology..

Crooked Hillary's 'America's Pacific Century' piece was also adopted as official US Foreign Policy, so no doubt the pressure will mount further on China too.

Nutcases!
 


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