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Protection of Life during Pregnancy Bill 2013


Cato

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In the flurry of activity surrounding the SIPTU vote yesterday, the publication of the Government’s Summer Legislative Programme seems to have been lost. Among the many Bills that they expect to publish in the months prior to the Dáil rising for the summer is the Protection of Maternal Life Bill 2013.

The description of the Bill runs as follows;

To implement the judgement of the European Court of Human Rights in A, B and C v Ireland by way of legislation with regulations, within the parameters of the Article 40.3.3 of the Constitution as interpreted by the Supreme Court in the X case, and to make appropriate amendments to the criminal law in this area.

All sounds very innocuous but this has the same potential to cause a few Fine Gael TDs to lose the whip as the rejection of CPII does for Labour. There has already been plenty of rumblings in the background (and some in the foreground) on this from FG sources. The original commitment was to have this Bill enacted prior to the summer recess but that pace may cause internal problems for FG.

The Government’s majority is huge but the slow drain is eventually going to cause instability if it continues on. Labour is already suffering from some instability because of the presence within the Dáil of a number of TDs who are no longer under the whip and who are now linking up with dissatisfied members throughout the broader party. Will this Bill cause something similar to occur within Fine Gael?
 

pippakin

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It sounds right so far. If any men don't like it they can go get a vasectomy.
 

Cato

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Love the name of the bill - how could one possibly argue with the protection of maternal life?. As if that's the issue...
Prepare to have the debate framed in exactly that manner.
 

florin

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Love the name of the bill - how could one possibly argue with the protection of maternal life?. As if that's the issue...
It is annoying when bills get such loaded names, like in the U.S. - how could you be so heartless as to vote against the Clean Air Act or the Patriot Act or the Fair Pay Act, or a law named after a murdered child?
 

zakalwe1

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It is annoying when bills get such loaded names, like in the U.S. - how could you be so heartless as to vote against the Clean Air Act or the Patriot Act or the Fair Pay Act, or a law named after a murdered child?
yep, the Clean Air Act opened up alaska to oil exploration.
 

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It is annoying when bills get such loaded names, like in the U.S. - how could you be so heartless as to vote against the Clean Air Act or the Patriot Act or the Fair Pay Act, or a law named after a murdered child?
Don't you want Freedom Fries? Why do you hate freedom????

I'll bet dollars to donuts this isn't voted on prior to the recess.
 

sic transit

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It is annoying when bills get such loaded names, like in the U.S. - how could you be so heartless as to vote against the Clean Air Act or the Patriot Act or the Fair Pay Act, or a law named after a murdered child?
It makes logical sense to have it named in relation to the issue it is addressing. But that doesn't stop people identifying its alleged true purpose.
 

Asparagus

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If it doesn't pass or until it does, can we kill mothers?

Do they have to be our own?
 

Mercurial

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How about we call it the "Fulfilling Our Responsibility as Legislators" Bill?
 

'orebel

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Don't you want Freedom Fries? Why do you hate freedom????

I'll bet dollars to donuts this isn't voted on prior to the recess.
You're odds will have to be a hell of a lot better than that if you want any takers.
 

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Will this Bill cause something similar to occur within Fine Gael?
Yes but the size of the problem will depend on the details, it could cost anything from a couple of TDs to Reilly's head.
 

eoghanacht

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Naturally. What heartless fiends we are, supporting maternal death...
If pro choice people can be painted as baby killers then why can't 'pro life' ;) side be painted as women killers, or come up with something more catchy.
 

eoghanacht

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Don't you want Freedom Fries? Why do you hate freedom????

I'll bet dollars to donuts this isn't voted on prior to the recess.

Do you not think they'd prefer to have it done and dusted before the back bencher's return to their constituencies?
 

eoghanacht

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I prefer the 'We Really Don't Need to Go This Far to Fulfill our Responsibility as Legislators' Bill..
Whats this 'we', abortion is legal in the UK.

Shall we keep allowing young women to die needlessly?
 

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I prefer the 'We Really Don't Need to Go This Far to Fulfill our Responsibility as Legislators' Bill..
Our legislators have failed to act on a Supreme Court ruling that is decades old, and have so far failed to act on the ruling in the A, B and C case.

The only defensible alternative is to announce plans to hold a referendum on these issues.

At present our legislators are simply not doing their jobs, for supremely cynical reasons.
 
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