Protest demands "house the Irish first"

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About 50 protesters have halted building of social housing for 65 people in Mulhuddart. They want half the houses reserved for Mulhuddart households on Fingal County Council’s housing list. Protesters say Fingal County Council is favouring non Irish people from outside the area in allocating social housing. The council denies this.

Is there an unfair allocation of housing to non Irish nationals? Are Irish people being discriminated against?

 
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About 50 protesters have halted building of social housing for 65 people in Mulhuddart. They want half the houses allocated to Irish people. Protesters say Fingal County Council is favouring non Irish people from outside the area in allocating social housing. The council denies this.

Is there an unfair allocation of housing to non Irish nationals? Are Irish people being discriminated against?

I think your thread title should read “House the Irish first”.
 

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Mulhuddart, a largely working-class area, is one of the most ethnically diverse in the State, with almost 40 per cent of the adult population born outside Ireland, compared with a figure of 17 per cent nationally
Its a shocking statistic. Anyone who thought this kind of radical social change could happen without any trouble erupting, had their heads in the sand.
And there will be a lot more to come, this is only the start of peoples feelings beginning to come out into the open.
These kind of people vote for Sinn Fein, because they see SF as an Irish nationalist party, and they understand the literal meaning of the words sinn fein.
What they don't really realise is that SF has some traditionally very marxist open borders policies, and they haven't even heard of the National Party yet.
 

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Its a shocking statistic. Anyone who thought this kind of radical social change could happen without any trouble erupting, had their heads in the sand.
And there will be a lot more to come, this is only the start of peoples feelings beginning to come out into the open.
These kind of people vote for Sinn Fein, because they see SF as an Irish nationalist party, and they understand the literal meaning of the words sinn fein.
What they don't really realise is that SF has some traditionally very marxist open borders policies, and they haven't even heard of the National Party yet.
This is all wrong. Any sense would tell you they are angry at current hosing policy not a future hosing policy.
 

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About 50 protesters have halted building of social housing for 65 people in Mulhuddart. They want half the houses reserved for Mulhuddart households on Fingal County Council’s housing list. Protesters say Fingal County Council is favouring non Irish people from outside the area in allocating social housing. The council denies this.

Is there an unfair allocation of housing to non Irish nationals? Are Irish people being discriminated against?

It seems very sensible to House and Provide Health Services to the People here First before continuing with more Mass Immigration that you are unable to Supply Housing and Health Services to.
 

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Everyone on the housing list thinks it's unfair when someone other than them gets a house. When they get their house, other people will think they skipped the queue.

And then people not on the housing list will complain about people getting free houses!
 

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Everyone on the housing list thinks it's unfair when someone other than them gets a house. When they get their house, other people will think they skipped the queue.

And then people not on the housing list will complain about people getting free houses!
I think it's a case here that they are accusing Fingal of using working class communities to house new comers over and above other areas. The might be right when you look at those stats.
 

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In the Exit Poll conducted on Election Day, 32% put Health as the Top Problem, with Housing and Homelessness second at 26%.

Pensions (8%) and Climate change (6%) were considered far worse concerns than Brexit or Immigration (1% each).

  1. Health 32%
  2. Housing/homelessness 26%
  3. Pension age 8%
  4. Jobs 6%
  5. Climate change 6%
  6. Taxation 4%
  7. Crime 3%
  8. Childcare 3%
  9. Immigration 1%
  10. Brexit 1%
  11. "Something else" 6%
  12. "No response" 5%
So the effort to turn this into an Immigration or anti-Refugee protest are wrong and a bit obvious. When there is competition for housing, people will feel issues like this keenly, and the Council should be more transparent if it insists it is allocating houses fairly.

It makes sense to house some refugee families in the area, in the interests of maintaining a diverse society, and not creating ghettos.
 

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In the Exit Poll conducted on Election Day, 38% put Health as the Top Problem, with Housing and Homelessness second at 26%.

Pensions (8%) and Climate change (6%) were considered far worse concerns than Brexit or Immigration (1% each).

  1. Health 32%
  2. Housing/homelessness 26%
  3. Pension age 8%
  4. Jobs 6%
  5. Climate change 6%
  6. Taxation 4%
  7. Crime 3%
  8. Childcare 3%
  9. Immigration 1%
  10. Brexit 1%
  11. "Something else" 6%
  12. "No response" 5%
So the effort to turn this into an Immigration or anti-Refugee protest are wrong and a bit obvious. When there is competition for housing, people will feel issues like this keenly, and the Council should be more transparent if it insists it is allocating houses fairly.

It makes sense to house some refugee families in the area, in the interests of maintaining a diverse society, and not creating ghettos.
 

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In the Exit Poll conducted on Election Day, 32% put Health as the Top Problem, with Housing and Homelessness second at 26%.

Pensions (8%) and Climate change (6%) were considered far worse concerns than Brexit or Immigration (1% each).

  1. Health 32%
  2. Housing/homelessness 26%
  3. Pension age 8%
  4. Jobs 6%
  5. Climate change 6%
  6. Taxation 4%
  7. Crime 3%
  8. Childcare 3%
  9. Immigration 1%
  10. Brexit 1%
  11. "Something else" 6%
  12. "No response" 5%
So the effort to turn this into an Immigration or anti-Refugee protest are wrong and a bit obvious. When there is competition for housing, people will feel issues like this keenly, and the Council should be more transparent if it insists it is allocating houses fairly.

It makes sense to house some refugee families in the area, in the interests of maintaining a diverse society, and not creating ghettos.
Yes completely. This is highlighting they believe Fingal CC are appointing housing geographically based on race. And they believe they are the victims of that.
 

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OP concedes that the accusation is denied by the council, opens thread anyway.

Woof woof.
In fairness there is a discussion in the denial too. Fingal say D15 is preference for many applicants. I'd well believe that but Mulhuddart is only one area of D15.
Castleknock
Ongar
Clonsilla
Blanchardtown

It seems housing is appointed by postcode rather than community
 

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OP concedes that the accusation is denied by the council, opens thread anyway.

Woof woof.
Just because they deny it doesnt means we have to accept their denial. Denial has a dark history in this country as we've seen many times with the powers that be. People in the article talk of waiting in some cases 15 years, and their children having to leave the area.
 

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Just because they deny it doesnt means we have to accept their denial. Denial has a dark history in this country as we've seen many times with the powers that be. People in the article talk of waiting in some cases 15 years, and their children having to leave the area.
:rolleyes: Why would they lie about something that can be proven by something as simple as an FOI? Go ahead and put in a request to see if they're lying to you or not.
 

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:rolleyes: Why would they lie about something that can be proven by something as simple as an FOI? Go ahead and put in a request to see if they're lying to you or not.
I didn't use the word "lie". But its quite clear the people in the protest do not believe the denials.

In that respect its like "keep the recovery going". People don't experience it in their own lives.
 

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I didn't use the word "lie". But its quite clear the people in the protest do not believe the denials.

In that respect its like "keep the recovery going". People don't experience it in their own lives.
You don't believe them. You're not accepting their denial. Do you not think Fingal CoCo are lying?
 

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Just because they deny it doesnt means we have to accept their denial. Denial has a dark history in this country as we've seen many times with the powers that be. People in the article talk of waiting in some cases 15 years, and their children having to leave the area.
I forgot, fake news.

Woof woof.
 


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