Public sector leaden handshakes under IMF prompting

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The handshakes are leaden,not golden,in Hungary,presumably under prompting from the IMF which was called in to help with the debt crisis. Quotes from today's London Times report,"Party takes on court over tax" (no link):

"The Hungarian government is gunning for the country's constitutional court after judges threw out its plans to introduce a 98% tax on public sector severance pay". Yes, 98%. Quite a contrast to Ireland's tax free golden handshakes of 1 1/2 years pay (around 1/2 a million euro redundancy severances at ESB Networks).

The government which has a two thirds majority "submitted legislation to parliament that would strip the court of jurisdiction over the state budget..."
 
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meanwhile in ireland the CPSU has declared they will fight to retain their members right to get paid for half an hours work to cash a cheque that doesnt exist.

ya really couldnt make it up.
 

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The handshakes are leaden,not golden,in Hungary,presumably under prompting from the IMF which was called in to help with the debt crisis. Quotes from today's London Times report,"Party takes on court over tax" (no link):

"The Hungarian government is gunning for the country's constitutional court after judges threw out its plans to introduce a 98% tax on public sector severance pay". Yes, 98%. Quite a contrast to Ireland's tax free golden handshakes of 1 1/2 years pay (around 1/2 a million euro redundancy severances at ESB International).

The government which has a two thirds majority "submitted legislation to parliament that would strip the court of jurisdiction over the state budget..."
I begin to wonder if you are a man or a specially created anti-public sector algorithm which automatically posts whenever there is a lull in the tirades.
 

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meanwhile in ireland the CPSU has declared they will fight to retain their members right to get paid for half an hours work to cash a cheque that doesnt exist.

ya really couldnt make it up.
Have to agree, this is the kind of indefensible nonsense that has to go.

The logic of the argument used by the CPSU that will unfairly impact on the lower paid is also nonsense, this is a time based perk not a salary based perk. If it is removed from all grades it will not impact on salary.
 

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I begin to wonder if you are a man or a specially created anti-public sector algorithm which automatically posts whenever there is a lull in the tirades.
He's one of these get rich quick gurus (with designs on being a really real type financial advisor) with a sneaking regard for Eoghan Harris, in fact up until his web site was posted on p'ie I was convinced he was the bould looper.
 

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The government which has a two thirds majority "submitted legislation to parliament that would strip the court of jurisdiction over the state budget..."
And Hungarys short lived dabbling with constitutional democracy dies at the behest of the IMF. Irony curtains again......
 

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Have to agree, this is the kind of indefensible nonsense that has to go.

The logic of the argument used by the CPSU that will unfairly impact on the lower paid is also nonsense, this is a time based perk not a salary based perk. If it is removed from all grades it will not impact on salary.

what got me was the first thing they seemed to do was snipe at other PS sector unions asking if they'd give up their perks like days off for shopping.

could be inter union ruptions in the offing.
 

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And Hungarys short lived dabbling with constitutional democracy dies at the behest of the IMF. Irony curtains again......
No-one is forcing Hungary to borrow from the IMF. The IMF would be delighted if Hungary lived within its means.
 

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what got me was the first thing they seemed to do was snipe at other PS sector unions asking if they'd give up their perks like days off for shopping.

could be inter union ruptions in the offing.
Days off 'shopping?'

Its all got to go, all archaic non relevant perks, gone. The gardai getting an allowance in lieu of losing premium rates of pay because they are on holidays is beyond belief.
 

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No-one is forcing Hungary to borrow from the IMF. The IMF would be delighted if Hungary lived within its means.
The Goverment is legislating to curtail the judiciary in Hungary which is a fledgling democracy, a disturbing development under any circumstances, if as the OP suggest this is done at the behest of the IMF then I think it exposes that organisation for the mercenary outfit it is. What next, will they ban Trade Unions?
 

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Have to agree, this is the kind of indefensible nonsense that has to go.

The logic of the argument used by the CPSU that will unfairly impact on the lower paid is also nonsense, this is a time based perk not a salary based perk. If it is removed from all grades it will not impact on salary.

It wont have an impact on salary but it will however improve work rate and this was to be done across the board within the PS we might see a difference.
 

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No-one is forcing Hungary to borrow from the IMF. The IMF would be delighted if Hungary lived within its means.

You really believe that too, don't you?
 

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twas on rte radio one circa 6.20 or so IIRC.

So that'd be about an hour twenty or so into the drivetime show when it goes up ?

was walking home at the time so am not certain on the time (wasnt watching the watch) but im pretty sure it was between 6 and 6.30
 

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thanks PD !

:)
 


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