Public service union fruitloopery

Erudite Caveman

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So, Dun Laoghaire Library is open on Sundays.

But unfortunately it was done without the local authority union folk getting their usual pay-off when someone changes something. Because DLR have figured that they can do without the librarians on Sundays.

Union rep says:

“We don’t have a problem with opening on Sunday but we do have a problem with it opening without library staff,” he said.
Translation: We've missed a golden opportunity to screw taxpayers for treble-time.

“Existing staff are being really stretched. The union nationally has expressed its concern that the move to staffless libraries will see further staff reductions in the sector.”
Translation: The union is worried that people might get the idea that it is not necessary for the taxpayers money to be spent paying lots of union people that DLR shows that they don't even need done at times.

Dún Laoghaire library staff protest Sunday opening (without them)

When did this dichotomy between the original intention of public service
- providing services to the public

and the reality of public service
- providing as much of the taxpayers money for the minimum amount of service to union members employed by the state,

come about?
 


Lúidín

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To the smug controllers and their agents, jobs are just inconvenient interference with their grand plans but to working people jobs are the basic necessity of life.
 

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So, Dun Laoghaire Library is open on Sundays.

But unfortunately it was done without the local authority union folk getting their usual pay-off when someone changes something. Because DLR have figured that they can do without the librarians on Sundays.

Union rep says:



Translation: We've missed a golden opportunity to screw taxpayers for treble-time.



Translation: The union is worried that people might get the idea that it is not necessary for the taxpayers money to be spent paying lots of union people that DLR shows that they don't even need done at times.

Dún Laoghaire library staff protest Sunday opening (without them)

When did this dichotomy between the original intention of public service
- providing services to the public

and the reality of public service
- providing as much of the taxpayers money for the minimum amount of service to union members employed by the state,

come about?

Surely "staff-less libraries" mean staff will be less stretched. I don't understand how the minds of these union reps work.


Specifically about the DL library, this is a fantastic public space for the public to occupy. To have it opened, with reduced services (i.e. no librarian service) is a million miles better than letting the multi-million Euro asset lie idle on a Sunday when some many people might just hang out there.
 

Erudite Caveman

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To the smug controllers and their agents, jobs are just inconvenient interference with their grand plans but to working people jobs are the basic necessity of life.
No librarians work on Sundays. Nothing has changed in relation to the employment of these wurkers. So what is the problem here?
 

Spanner Island

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So, Dun Laoghaire Library is open on Sundays.

But unfortunately it was done without the local authority union folk getting their usual pay-off when someone changes something. Because DLR have figured that they can do without the librarians on Sundays.

Union rep says:



Translation: We've missed a golden opportunity to screw taxpayers for treble-time.



Translation: The union is worried that people might get the idea that it is not necessary for the taxpayers money to be spent paying lots of union people that DLR shows that they don't even need done at times.

Dún Laoghaire library staff protest Sunday opening (without them)

When did this dichotomy between the original intention of public service
- providing services to the public

and the reality of public service
- providing as much of the taxpayers money for the minimum amount of service to union members employed by the state,

come about?
A €30 million library... in the 21st century...

Keegan should be prosecuted for treating public money with such contempt and blowing so much of it.

He's some w*nker.
 

RodShaft

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There are problems with both socialism and capitalism.

Capitalism is often great for innovation and efficiency, but the incentive to fúck over the weak and vulnerable is usually too great for those better able t look after themsleves.


Socialism is great for protecting the vulnerable, but is often too easy for Public Servant political pressure to be brought to bear on government, the Great Employer, stifling innovation.

Unions didn't spring into existence to protect middle class teat suckers. They sprang into existence to protect vulnerable workers.


On balance I prefer socialism, but the above is one of its major drawbacks.
 

Erudite Caveman

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To the smug controllers and their agents, jobs are just inconvenient interference with their grand plans but to working people jobs are the basic necessity of life.
The negative description of providing public services as 'grand plans' is telling.
 

Socratus O' Pericles

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No librarians work on Sundays. Nothing has changed in relation to the employment of these wurkers. So what is the problem here?
Thin end fat wedge and it'll be applied even more vigorously in the private sector when they're turn comes. Driver-less taxis, accountancy, legal services, radiology, anybody serving customers (check out staff) and on and on. This is an exceptional paper:

http://www.oxfordmartin.ox.ac.uk/downloads/academic/The_Future_of_Employment.pdf


it explains i detail why such resistance exists. I'll await you're thoughts with interest when you have read it.
 

Socratus O' Pericles

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A €30 million library... in the 21st century...

Keegan should be prosecuted for treating public money with such contempt and blowing so much of it.

He's some w*nker.
I was against the library and felt the money ought to have been spent on public housing. That said it is considered a resounding success locally and is packed out most of the time-apparently ( I'm told this ,I do be at work.:cool:)
 

RodShaft

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This is about opening a public space. To the public.
And you think that the Socialism v Capitalism argument hasn't fundamentally affected how this is being done?
 

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How is the library going to operate without staff?
 

RodShaft

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Thin end fat wedge and it'll be applied even more vigorously in the private sector when they're turn comes. Driver-less taxis, accountancy, legal services, radiology, anybody serving customers (check out staff) and on and on. This is an exceptional paper:

http://www.oxfordmartin.ox.ac.uk/downloads/academic/The_Future_of_Employment.pdf


it explains i detail why such resistance exists. I'll await you're thoughts with interest when you have read it.
Looks awfully like something that was published in abridged for in New Scientist earlier this year, or last year.


Thing is, I have no doubt that automation will IT will destroy us. Not by hunter killer robots a la Terminator, but by creating a massive underclass of under employed, or unemployed people.

And the thing is: each step will seem reasonable. This is not stoppable, any more than saving the typing pool from extinction was.
 

Socratus O' Pericles

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How is the library going to operate without staff?
Not sure I guess the security/ service staff will open the doors and it'll be self service on your smart card, with no professional librarians or their assistants required-not sure tho', that's a guess.
 


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