Pulse of Europe

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An allegedly grassroots pro-EU movement, Pulse of Europe, has emerged. A German couple, Daniel and Sabine Röder, initiated small public meetings in Frankfurt which have spread across Germany (primarily) and across the continent. Small gatherings were reported in Dublin and Galway over the weekend.


Pro-EU marches celebrate 60 years of European unity
Unlike previous pro-EU movements, Pulse of Europe is a grassroots, decentralised organisation with no links to Brussels institutions. And, unlike most movements, Pulse of Europe is not against but for something: a European community of shared values
What is at stake – #PulseOfEurope
1. Europe must not fail
If all of those to whom Europe is important or who also only profit therefrom do not become more active and vote in elections the European Union may implode in the near future. The upcoming elections in Holland, France and Germany are of existential importance. Europe’s survival is at stake.

2. The threat to peace

The European Union was and is primarily a union to assure peace. Peace demands that Europe remains strong.

3. We are responsible
Every single one of us is responsible for the failure or success of our future. Nobody can wriggle out of this. To assume that things will continue to go well is very dangerous. Anyone who remains passive just strengthens anti European forces. At this moment Europe needs absolutely everybody. All sections of society have the duty to oppose destructive and backward looking tendencies. Europe may not be divided.

4. Get up and vote
Let us make the European idea visible and audible. Give Europe-friendly parties your vote. We are convinced that the number of people who are positively disposed towards the European idea is much greater than that of the Anti-Europeans. We must however increase the volume and make our convictions heard. We wish to wake up the silent majority.

5. Basic rights and rule of law are inviolable
Individual freedom, justice and the rule of law must be preserved in all of Europe. Current law must be maintained in all spheres of life, also in the future. Independent courts must be permitted to continue carrying on their monitoring tasks. State activities may only continue on the basis of properly executed law making. In some parts of Europe the freedom of the press is already being limited. This must be confronted.

6. European fundamental freedoms are not negotiable
Free movement of persons, goods, money-transfers and services – basic European freedoms – are historic achievements, which made a community out of national states. They ensure individual freedom and prosperity. A reduction in basic freedoms would have dramatic economic and personal consequences. Only by preserving the total of basic freedoms can the continued assurance of rights and duties be guaranteed. Special arrangements and exceptions may lead to an erosion of the whole.

7. Reforms are necessary
Europe must be preserved so that it can be further improved. The European idea must be better appreciated and understandable for the man in the street. It must start at the bottom and carried upwards. Europe should be fun again. Anyone who leaves cannot help to shape Europe.

8. Take mistrust seriously
The European Union is not self-serving. Its aim is to find solutions to problems, which are genuinely important to everybody. There must be definite focussing on the essential challenges of our time. Doubts about the European Union must be listened to and the causes of these must be studied, so that doubts can be changed into confidence.

9. Diversity and joint qualities
Diversity within Europe is fantastic. Helping preserve regional and national identities must be the European programme. There is so much that unites us Europeans. Diversity and joint qualities are not a contradiction, and nobody needs to decide between a regional, national and European identity.

10. We all can, and should be a part of it
Pulse of Europe is a social initiative to preserve Europe – beyond party or religion. Everyone who accepts the European idea can be part of this. The European pulse needs to be felt again.

Let’s be the Pulse of Europe!
The response to the Eurozone crisis and Irish referendum reruns had made me rather Euroskeptic but Brexit, Trump, Wilders, Le Pen etc. give plenty of pause for thought.

And what really got me back on an EU-lovin' path is reading about European brutality throughout history. According to Peter Frankopan, other regions of the world had their cataclysmic wars but generally had long periods of peace afterwards; European conflict has been persistently devastating since the fall of Rome. And the age of empires exported that brutality globally.

Surrounded by an increasingly agitated America, authoritarian Russia/Eastern Europe, the continued rise of undemocratic China, Islamic extremism and African demagogery, a Europe upholding Enlightenment values doesn't seem as inevitable as it used to be without some form of EUropean integration.

So I for one welcome this sort of thing.

Any piesters in attendance at the Dublin/Galway events?
Does this movement reflect the thoughts of a silent majority of Irish voters?
 


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What about the pro-EU movement called the EU? Does it need help from Joe and Josephine Bloggs despite its massive budgets and wide-ranging powers?
 

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Conglomerates like Google and Facebook don't respond to the pressure of national governments for the most part either...

At least the EU has the clout to take them on and more often than not softens their cough and has done good things wrt to mobile roaming charges throughout the EU etc.

Good luck UK with taking on the likes of Google on your tod... :roll:

Anything grass roots that isn't beholden to the mindless federal/fiscal/political union horsesh!t is to be welcomed... imo.
 

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"Europe should be fun again. Anyone who leaves cannot help to shape Europe"
- both of these statements are nonsense (as is he anti-national wish to make the EU more democratic ie minimise power of member states and give power to countries with large populations)
 

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I like the argument that the EU is pro-peace. The countries of the real EU are doing a fine trade manufacturing and selling bombs, armaments of all kinds, bombers, jet fighters etc. to any despot with cash, and most of the other 27 are in Nato.
 

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Saw Euronews the other day (crying child) ....Talk about propoganda .....Didnt realise quite what an obviously EU funded joke it is


The title : Pro and Anti EU marches Rome

Lead with the pro Europe march - a family with a flag , seriously no more than 7 people , and then the anti EU march with Thousands ...and they seriously tried to compare the 2 and gave precedence in the report to the pro EU "Demonstration " (Family outing )

When such duplicity is required , the argument is lost

Lots of alleged grass roots movements around at the moment ...one in a van traveling around France covered in the Guardian yesterday .....Heavily funded by one party ...but grass roots :roll: I suggest if you dig into the OP alleged "grass roots" movement you will ultimately find an EU job or funding in some guise

The EU is very sick , very close to terminal , as usual the politicians and the federalist bureaucracy driving the EU will be the last to get it
 

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I would be in favour of an EU that wasn't hijacked by elitist crooks against the best interests of the greater European people. But since a crooked, elitist EU is the only EU that appears to be on offer, then I remain anti-EU for now.
 
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Conglomerates like Google and Facebook don't respond to the pressure of national governments for the most part either...

At least the EU has the clout to take them on and more often than not softens their cough and has done good things wrt to mobile roaming charges throughout the EU etc.

Good luck UK with taking on the likes of Google on your tod... :roll:

Anything grass roots that isn't beholden to the mindless federal/fiscal/political union horsesh!t is to be welcomed... imo.
Yeah, remember Brexit the Movie? Went on about finance sector elitism and the extent of lobbying of EU institutions unbeknownst to the demos... yet its crowdfunding involved City of London types including finance sector lobbyists to the British govt.
 

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I would be in favour of an EU that wasn't hijacked by elitist crooks against the best intentions of the greater European people. But since a crooked, elitist EU is the only EU that appears to be on offer, then I remain anti-EU for now.
This excellent programme was an eye opener for me , if you ever get a chance to see it , do

BBC Two - Europe: Them or Us

In it Ted Heath , the man who took the UK into the EEC and a committed european was asked about the chances of a Federal Europe , He replys that that is the entire purpose and endgame of the EU project , and everyone knew this in political circles and in Brussel back in 1973......

When you view the EU as an unrelenting drive towards a federal Europe , everything starts to make sense
 

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An allegedly grassroots pro-EU movement, Pulse of Europe, has emerged. A German couple, Daniel and Sabine Röder, initiated small public meetings in Frankfurt which have spread across Germany (primarily) and across the continent. Small gatherings were reported in Dublin and Galway over the weekend.


Pro-EU marches celebrate 60 years of European unity

What is at stake – #PulseOfEurope

The response to the Eurozone crisis and Irish referendum reruns had made me rather Euroskeptic but Brexit, Trump, Wilders, Le Pen etc. give plenty of pause for thought.

And what really got me back on an EU-lovin' path is reading about European brutality throughout history. According to Peter Frankopan, other regions of the world had their cataclysmic wars but generally had long periods of peace afterwards; European conflict has been persistently devastating since the fall of Rome. And the age of empires exported that brutality globally.

Surrounded by an increasingly agitated America, authoritarian Russia/Eastern Europe, the continued rise of undemocratic China, Islamic extremism and African demagogery, a Europe upholding Enlightenment values doesn't seem as inevitable as it used to be without some form of EUropean integration.

So I for one welcome this sort of thing.

Any piesters in attendance at the Dublin/Galway events?
Does this movement reflect the thoughts of a silent majority of Irish voters?
The EU is set to be over run by hordes of blacks from Africa who will out breed and cause the extinction of the White Race.
 

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The EU needs to get back to what it was good at, when it was the EEC.

The EEC worked, the EUnited states of Europe doesn't, it's a crock that needs to be ended, no one except the Bureaucrats want it, mainly for the €€€
 

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The EU is a failed venture, completly undemocratic, time for irexit, before it manages to drag all of European civilisation down the gutter.
 

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The EU is a failed venture, completly undemocratic, time for irexit, before it manages to drag all of European civilisation down the gutter.
Irexit/Eirexit isn't viable unless you want to be part of the UK... and let's face it... the EU has about 740 years left of abusing us before they start competing with the UK...

A largely rural and agricultural country with ca. 5 million people that is over-dependent on FDI is not going to thrive on its own no matter how much you may wish to think it can...

Plus if the EU does go down the sh!tter European civilisation will not follow it...

Life will carry on... it will be messy for a while... and it will affect everywhere in Europe regardless of whether you're in or outside the EU... including the UK which will feel an EU implosion every bit as much as any EU country...

Irexit/Eirexit is a farcical idea... imo.
 

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We descended from a different species. They stayed in Africa with the Chimps till recently.
Nah... you need to go back further Hans... :roll:

But you know what?

I've no intention of continuing this and indulging your biases by engaging in this nonsnse further as it has f*** all to do with the OP.
 

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This organisations no doubt has its strings pulled by Brian Hayes types somewhere in the background.
Here's the founder's response:

Daniel Röder on Pulse of Europe:
Have you already been contacted by political parties or politicians, or have you already thought about structuring PoE as a political party? Are there any plans to do so?
There are plans to turn Pulse of Europe into a party. We are being contacted more and more by parties and politicians and are being invited to participate in cooperation. But it's important to us to remain independent from party politics.
How do you envisage PoE's future?
We would like to remain close to people, to be authentic and dependable in what we do. We still don't know the form that Pulse of Europe will take after the French elections. But we are aware of the expectations people have for us and will turned them into action at a certain time with the necessary sense of responsibility that has been placed in our hands.
 

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The EU cannot sustain it's own population, it now wants to import blacks, and such to replace our population. That is the EU pulse.
 

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Saw Euronews the other day (crying child) ....Talk about propoganda .....Didnt realise quite what an obviously EU funded joke it is


The title : Pro and Anti EU marches Rome

Lead with the pro Europe march - a family with a flag , seriously no more than 7 people , and then the anti EU march with Thousands ...and they seriously tried to compare the 2 and gave precedence in the report to the pro EU "Demonstration " (Family outing )

When such duplicity is required , the argument is lost

Lots of alleged grass roots movements around at the moment ...one in a van traveling around France covered in the Guardian yesterday .....Heavily funded by one party ...but grass roots :roll: I suggest if you dig into the OP alleged "grass roots" movement you will ultimately find an EU job or funding in some guise

The EU is very sick , very close to terminal , as usual the politicians and the federalist bureaucracy driving the EU will be the last to get it
Dont know what you where watching but #pulseofeurope is growing


Yesterday saw a protest of 6,500 in Berlin
3,000 in Frankfurt
1,000 in Achen and similar numbers in other german cities

This was the scene in Warsaw



Even the Daily Mail is reporting it Thousands join rallies pro-Europe rallies across Germany | Daily Mail Online

brexit has been a wake up call to many. It and rise of far Right parties have galvanised the pro european movement in a way never seen before

European Union: Europe Wakes Up | ZEIT ONLINE

 
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The EU cannot sustain it's own population, it now wants to import blacks, and such to replace our population. That is the EU pulse.
I'll happily see you replaced.
 


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