"Putting the Irish people first" is a foolish statement - says SF Councillor Sarah Holland!

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The world is truly in a bizarre situation when faux liberals can effectively threaten national sovereignty, economy and democracy with impunity because of others' fear of being labeled a racist.

It seems bizarre that any politician would suggest not putting the interests of their own people first - the people who pay their salary and their pensions and have a reasonable entitlement to assume they're working for their best interest, not out to undermine the national sovereignty. They may have clear policies on refugees and on naturalization from a "national interest" perspective, but to suggest that their policies and actions shouldn't be aligned to putting their own first is disturbing.

That said - this isn't a SF issue, it's rife across all the political parties - all frantically virtue signaling more and more to out liberal the others while the citizens - particularly the tax payers - know who's paying for it all.
 


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The world is truly in a bizarre situation when faux liberals can effectively threaten national sovereignty, economy and democracy with impunity because of others' fear of being labeled a racist.

It seems bizarre that any politician would suggest not putting the interests of their own people first - the people who pay their salary and their pensions and have a reasonable entitlement to assume they're working for their best interest, not out to undermine the national sovereignty. They may have clear policies on refugees and on naturalization from a "national interest" perspective, but to suggest that their policies and actions shouldn't be aligned to putting their own first is disturbing.

That said - this isn't a SF issue, it's rife across all the political parties - all frantically virtue signaling more and more to out liberal the others while the citizens - particularly the tax payers - know who's paying for it all.
Maybe, just maybe, she works on all her constituents behalf regardless of background?

The vermin piling on here would indicate she is onto something about racism.
 

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There are no real Irish left in Ireland , The great majority are in the US or Britain and Commonwealth. There are many more with thr Prefix O"in their names living in OZ or NZ, even UK than living in Ireland

Understand your True history , Cromwell drove us west of the Shannon, The Famine killed over a million of us and over a million emigrated
And to top it all off De Valera ,in the fifties and sixties ensured that the rest of us who were living in poverty took the boat train to England.
England alone is populated by up to six million Irish of fourth and fifth generation

Those of you on this site claiming to be Irish should go get a DNA test and if you own land should be prepared if not a Celt,to gift your home and land to a returning {real] Irish emigrant mostly with the O' prefix to their name.

Then and only then will the nation be comprised of true Irish people.
Oh shut up you racist, bigoted clown.
 

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SF are on the wrong side of the nations mood indeed the mood in Europe. Multiculturalism is failing and people have had enough. The "racist card" isn't working anymore.
Funny how all the parties manage to miss this, and them professionals. Funny how the ravist right consider 1% a result in elections.

Maybe, just maybe, the internet shouty brigade arent representative of reality?
 

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There are no real Irish left in Ireland , The great majority are in the US or Britain and Commonwealth. There are many more with thr Prefix O"in their names living in OZ or NZ, even UK than living in Ireland

Understand your True history , Cromwell drove us west of the Shannon, The Famine killed over a million of us and over a million emigrated
And to top it all off De Valera ,in the fifties and sixties ensured that the rest of us who were living in poverty took the boat train to England.
England alone is populated by up to six million Irish of fourth and fifth generation

Those of you on this site claiming to be Irish should go get a DNA test and if you own land should be prepared if not a Celt,to gift your home and land to a returning {real] Irish emigrant mostly with the O' prefix to their name.

Then and only then will the nation be comprised of true Irish people.
The Irish got involved in world politics when they allowed St Patrick tramp around subjugating the Irish to a foreign Pope inspired by a goat herder who never existed. The Irish got involved in English politics by backing James 2nd. In doing so they risked retribution should he be defeated. The English did not dump Christianity completely, but they realized the Pope was telling them what to do and making the rules on foreign relations/conquest, sexual intercourse and marriage which were unnatural. Money was also going to Rome.
The Irish should have extradited St. Patrick or executed him. That was their first mistake. All young men in the interim were faced with a career choice 1) to be a soldier prepared to fight to the death under an Irish King 2) To join a religious order and bowsey around talking shyte. (Where was the gold stored when the Vikings came here?) Most choose the soft option. The result, there was no standing army to defend the country from 432 to 1920. Open borders.

DeValera requested US President John F Kennedy not to allow the Irish Migrate to America. At the time the Irish did not know it was Dev who did it. The Celts are only Irish be adoption. They came in 700 BC, the O'Reilly's being one famous family name.

It can be seen that the key failure of the Irish nation was to loose control on immigration. Controlled immigration allows the natives decide between invasion and assimilation. A loose homogeneous population avoids terrorism and hostile immigrants and promotes intermarriage. An invasion is theft pure and simple. There is still plenty of full blooded Irish in the country despite it all and so this post is incorrect. They survived as majorities without the rights their number entitled them to. The Irish did tend to marry their own.

We can't change the past, our people are a mix and we can't (and don't want to change that either), but we can learn from the past and that tells us very clearly that if we we concede power to controllers outside our Island, we loose, we always loose. That power was conceded to the EU, we thought they would be mild conservative. They turned out to be commie , leftie, fake green, fake liberals tyrants. Britain realized that with Brexit, and so do for Ireland.
 

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Maybe, just maybe, she works on all her constituents behalf regardless of background?

The vermin piling on here would indicate she is onto something about racism.
So now it's racist to want public representatives to represent the citizens they represent and to enforce that laws of the land?
 

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SF are on the wrong side of the nations mood indeed the mood in Europe. Multiculturalism is failing and people have had enough. The "racist card" isn't working anymore.
Indeed - SF are late to the liberal party and really weren't even invited. They're just there because of FOMO of the liberal vote-machine.
 

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So now it's racist to want public representatives to represent the citizens they represent and to enforce that laws of the land?
They represent all their constituents, not just citizens. You really should know basics like this before posting on a politics forum.
 

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So now it's racist to want public representatives to represent the citizens they represent and to enforce that laws of the land?
If expressed in a certain way, yes. And that attitude at local level is very greasy.

Or back at you. Does representing all your constituency regardless of their background make you a race traitor and Soros lackey?
 

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They represent all their constituents, not just citizens. You really should know basics like this before posting on a politics forum.


Hmmm....here's the definition:

A resident of a district or member of a group represented by an elected official.
So being a resident means being here legally, right?

I'd be happy if I believed she was referring to all legally resident "constituents" but I fear this not to be the case.
 

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Perhaps "Siad Féin" (meaning "themselves")would be a more fitting name for SF.
 

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If expressed in a certain way, yes. And that attitude at local level is very greasy.

Or back at you. Does representing all your constituency regardless of their background make you a race traitor and Soros lackey?
All her "constituency" is fine - legally resident souls from wherever they have come from. Sadly many politicians see their "constituents" as being people who have no right to be here and spend tax payer funded time trying to pervert the law of the land by seeking to normalize their situation - effectively reward illegal entry into the country.
 

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All her "constituency" is fine - legally resident souls from wherever they have come from. Sadly many politicians see their "constituents" as being people who have no right to be here and spend tax payer funded time trying to pervert the law of the land by seeking to normalize their situation - effectively reward illegal entry into the country.
And thats what she said, yeah?
 

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They represent all their constituents, not just citizens. You really should know basics like this before posting on a politics forum.
Here's the quote................
Replying to
@naBanbha
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@niamhNiChiosog
"Putting the Irish people first" is a foolish statement, & a dog whistle to racists. We should be building more social housing and investing in a functioning health service. We *need* people to come here and help us build these. We can easily afford to shelter those fleeing war.
1:53 PM · Dec 31, 2018 · Twitter for Android
She said putting Irish people first i.e. citizens was "foolish". So should everyone here be allowed vote in any election? Run for office? Be entitled to dole? After how long? And who are those fleeing war? How many can we shelter? Yes we should help refugees but should they from day one be treated like a citizen born and bred here?
 


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