Question for right wing/libertarian/eurosceptic/Austrian school posters

conservative green

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It seems to me that there is a decent body of us here.

Would you consider voting for, and even supporting and campaigning for, a far left party, such as SF or the Socialists, as a short term tactical move, given that there seems to be some measure of agreement between our lot and their lot in terms of the immediate shared objective of "burning(*) the bondholders"?

(* metaphorically, I mean. Although the thought of literally burning them alive is quite tempting .)
 


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It seems to me that there is a decent body of us here.

Would you consider voting for, and even supporting and campaigning for, a far left party, such as SF or the Socialists, as a short term tactical move, given that there seems to be some measure of agreement between our lot and their lot in terms of the immediate shared objective of "burning(*) the bondholders"?

(* metaphorically, I mean. Although the thought of literally burning them alive is quite tempting .)
Lost you there. i would consider a left/right wing party if they had the answers but at this moment everyone is trying to grab power and hold on to it before the cold vacum of FF destruction hits us. the parties we have now have a mantra it's Power before the people.
 

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I know! It's tortured me all week. It's extraordinary to me that SF are the only party that agree with my philosophy that the bondholders must pay. But they come from it from an isolationist, xenophobic background. We from the common sense capitalist POV. Strange bedfellows indeed.

I wouldn't vote for them though. They are irredeemable socialists who believe effort and ingenuity should be punished with obscene taxes. Eh, no.
 

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I know! It's tortured me all week. It's extraordinary to me that SF are the only party that agree with my philosophy that the bondholders must pay. But they come from it from an isolationist, xenophobic background. We from the common sense capitalist POV. Strange bedfellows indeed.

I wouldn't vote for them though. They are irredeemable socialists who believe effort and ingenuity should be punished with obscene taxes. Eh, no.
Nope, the only party still trying to let the bondholders off are FF. Wow Le Droit, you've fallen for shinner spewing....Still you won't vote vote for them, fair enough..
 

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I know! It's tortured me all week. It's extraordinary to me that SF are the only party that agree with my philosophy that the bondholders must pay. But they come from it from an isolationist, xenophobic background. We from the common sense capitalist POV. Strange bedfellows indeed.

I wouldn't vote for them though. They are irredeemable socialists who believe effort and ingenuity should be punished with obscene taxes. Eh, no.
I voted Green last time. What a mistake! This time I will vote Sinn Fein.
 

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It seems to me that there is a decent body of us here.

Would you consider voting for, and even supporting and campaigning for, a far left party, such as SF or the Socialists, as a short term tactical move, given that there seems to be some measure of agreement between our lot and their lot in terms of the immediate shared objective of "burning(*) the bondholders"?

(* metaphorically, I mean. Although the thought of literally burning them alive is quite tempting .)
Short answer is NO. I don't trust SF as far as I'ld throw them IMO I couldn't vote for a party that fields reconstructed terrorists as candidates! I know the war is over like, but theres still a strong smell of cordite about them. ~Sorry folks but it's the way I feel. Yes I would consider voting for a left wing party but not the shinners!
 

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Short answer is NO. I don't trust SF as far as I'ld throw them IMO I couldn't vote for a party that fields reconstructed terrorists as candidates! I know the war is over like, but theres still a strong smell of cordite about them. ~Sorry folks but it's the way I feel. Yes I would consider voting for a left wing party but not the shinners!
2,000 attend 1916 Rising commemoration - RT News
Attended by the president, Brian Lenihan etc. etc....
 

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No you didn't quote me. You changed my post and I still fail to see the joke.
Without trying to talk for someone else, I think he was saying that the same hopes people place in SF now, might well be as misplaced as the hopes they placed in the Greens four years ago. So, in five years, you might be as pissed at SF as you are with the Greens now.
 

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LeDroit already articulated my feelings on this. I think it's safe to say almost everybody else on the Right would agree too.
 

A Time for Every Purpose

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Short answer is NO. I don't trust SF as far as I'ld throw them IMO I couldn't vote for a party that fields reconstructed terrorists as candidates! I know the war is over like, but theres still a strong smell of cordite about them. ~Sorry folks but it's the way I feel. Yes I would consider voting for a left wing party but not the shinners!
All people who fight for a higher cause are called 'terrorists',by their enemy who is often the oppressor.
There would be no human advancement without those who stand up to big bullies.All true Irish people at one time or other suppported them ,so you cannot be Irish.
On the other hand they are now democrats,and the only reason why I
would not vote for them would be their policies of today,which are too unrealistic,
and socialist.
Having been one of those, I think that people who have a permanently dependent mind set, and blame all others for their problems ,
have become a real problem for a functioning society, and I now prefer honest
hard working business people ,who also have a social conscience.
 

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I also have a question for right wing/libertarian/eurosceptic/Austrian school posters:

Is it a symptom of ideological fanaticism or just plain ignorance that you all have the nerve to show yourselves in public rather than hiding under a rock somewhere after having apologised to civilisation for your insane, immoral and intellectually cretinous ideology that has all but destroyed the global economy and put this country into penury?

Just wondering.
 

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I also have a question for right wing/libertarian/eurosceptic/Austrian school posters:

Is it a symptom of ideological fanaticism or just plain ignorance that you all have the nerve to show yourselves in public rather than hiding under a rock somewhere after having apologised to civilisation for your insane, immoral and intellectually cretinous ideology that has all but destroyed the global economy and put this country into penury?

Just wondering.
And here was me taking you seriously and even preparing an answer to what I thought was a sincere question.

To the first one about voting for left-wing parties, it is something I've considered and struggled with, particularly recently. I would've considered voting Labour had they not come out with the 48% tax rate nonsense. As for SF - no, for a variety of reasons. It's also hard to support anyone - SP, ULA, etc - who despises everything one stands for with such ferocity, even for tactical reasons.

As for the second, I'll gladly stand up for my views in public. There's nothing cretinous about a system that has brought more prosperity and freedom to the world than any other.
 

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The only point I can agree with SF on is burning the bondholders. They are very much on a tax and spend policy agenda after that. Also even if they became a economically right-wing libertarian party in the morning I still could not bring myself to vote for them until their IRA leadership and those who support it are well and truely retired.

As for the Socialist Party and Joe Higgins, well his policy of turning us into a version of the USSR would be against my very nature.
 

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As for the second, I'll gladly stand up for my views in public. There's nothing cretinous about a system that has brought more prosperity and freedom to the world than any other.

It really is unbelievable. We are in the midst of the biggest global economic crisis in a century and one that has been caused by your economic philosophy and you are still sprouting the old cliches that the likes of Bertie Ahern were coming out with before the baloon went up.

It's a pathological position, not a political one. The bunker in 1945, Japanese soldiers still fighting the war in 1965, choose your own anology. A total refusal to acknowledge reality.
 

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It really is unbelievable. We are in the midst of the biggest global economic crisis in a century and one that has been caused by your economic philosophy and you are still sprouting the old cliches that the likes of Bertie Ahern were coming out with before the baloon went up.

It's a pathological position, not a political one. The bunker in 1945, Japanese soldiers still fighting the war in 1965, choose your own anology. A total refusal to acknowledge reality.
Tell a socialist that East Germany is evidence that socialism doesn't work and he'll loudly cry, "oh no! that wasn't real socialism. Real socialism is totally different and we'll definitely get it right next time. Really"

But let a capitalist for one second defend his views and it's "a refusal to acknowledge reality".
 

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The problem is what would they do after they burned bondholders?

The solution to this for us is now becoming even more obvious than it was before.

Default on everything, pull out of the euro, revert to the punt, lower the CT to 8% and balance our budget.
 


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