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Ragwort issue is growing worse


Aindriu

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Why is ragwort so bad on roadsides this year? Do the councils not know what it is? It is poisonous and the councils are breaking the law by not killing it. Or has the law changed under the Green Party?
Does John Gormley even know what ragwort is?
Don't walk the roads or breathe near the ragwort or you will get sick and end up going to hospital. What hospital? Just heard the local hospital is going to close.
I have to go now to pay my increased ESB bill. I think we should feed ragwort to the Greens.
Brigid Hogan
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Well said Brigid! Why has the Minister for the Environment - John (Gormless) Gormley - not ordered councils to remove Ragwort from the verges as they are legally required to do? Ragwort seeds spread to neighbouring fields where they germinate and grow into - yes - more Ragwort. Ragwort is a poisonous plant to livestock (horses, sheep, cattle - even dogs) and causes them to die in a painful and lingering way.

Do your job Gormley!
 

greengoose2

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Well said Brigid! Why has the Minister for the Environment - John (Gormless) Gormley - not ordered councils to remove Ragwort from the verges as they are legally required to do? Ragwort seeds spread to neighbouring fields where they germinate and grow into - yes - more Ragwort. Ragwort is a poisonous plant to livestock (horses, sheep, cattle - even dogs) and causes them to die in a painful and lingering way.

Do your job Gormley!
Ragworth is not an urban thing so Mr Gormley does not need to apply the NIMBY principle in this case!
 

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The stuff has infested my garden and I'm doing my best to remove it. Not easy when it is growing in abundance on the road side - great big 5 foot specimens.
 

Aindriu

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Ragworth is not an urban thing so Mr Gormley does not need to apply the NIMBY principle in this case!
I have seen it on the edges of playing fields and in parks in Dublin so.
 

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Myers' article makes reference to the ragworth growing along the roads that come under the ambit of the NRA.

That being the case and notwithstanding the fact that I despise the vile Gormless as much as the next man, isn't "I'm Noelie fly me" Dempsey not the Chief Panjandrum over the dullards in the NRA?

As I recall it, it was "I'm entitled to my holiday in Malta" Dempsey who was the Minister to blame for the roads de-icing fiasco, earlier this year.
 

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We are taking money from blind widows, closing hospitals and leaving school kids in prefabs. Our expenditure exceeds our revenue by €20 Billion a year, every year, and our bank bail out is costing €26 Billion and counting.

And you want the State to spend money on eradicating Ragwort? Are you even on this planet? We are BROKE! Like totally broke. Smashed. Haven't a pot to pi$$ in. Zero cash. Are you crazy loons getting this yet?!
 

Cato

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We are taking money from blind widows, closing hospitals and leaving school kids in prefabs. Our expenditure exceeds our revenue by €20 Billion a year, every year, and our bank bail out is costing €26 Billion and counting.

And you want the State to spend money on eradicating Ragwort? Are you even on this planet? We are BROKE! Like totally broke. Smashed. Haven't a pot to pi$$ in. Zero cash. Are you crazy loons getting this yet?!
I hate to break it to you but it is against the law to have ragwort growing on your land, including state land. By tolerating it they are breaking the law. Do you commonly believe that the state should fount its own laws?

Noxious Weeds Act, 1936
 

joemomma

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Myers' article makes reference to the ragworth growing along the roads that come under the ambit of the NRA.

That being the case and notwithstanding the fact that I despise the vile Gormless as much as the next man, isn't "I'm Noelie fly me" Dempsey not the Chief Panjandrum over the dullards in the NRA?

As I recall it, it was "I'm entitled to my holiday in Malta" Dempsey who was the Minister to blame for the roads de-icing fiasco, earlier this year.
You're quite correct, but assuming John Gormley is responsible provides the added bonus of being able to have a swipe at the Greens at the same time.
 

LeDroit

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I hate to break it to you but it is against the law to have ragwort growing on your land, including state land. By tolerating it they are breaking the law. Do you commonly believe that the state should fount its own laws?

Noxious Weeds Act, 1936
The govt passed a law overnight voiding State contracts, nationalising a bank and guaranteeing four others in the interest of d'emergency. I can't imagine this nonsense was high on the agenda so to be speak but if it offends you I'm sure they can repeal the Act in about an hour. We've no cash for this.
 

greengoose2

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You're quite correct, but assuming John Gormley is responsible provides the added bonus of being able to have a swipe at the Greens at the same time.
If the Greens weren't so childishly foolish there would be less compunction to take swipes at them. They are not quite at the juncture of "More to be pitied than laughed at!" That will happen at the next general election!
 

bobbysands81

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Does Ragwort have a long thin green stem with a type of white flower on the top of it?

If so then it's all over Dublin as well.
 

Cato

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Cato

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The govt passed a law overnight voiding State contracts, nationalising a bank and guaranteeing four others in the interest of d'emergency. I can't imagine this nonsense was high on the agenda so to be speak but if it offends you I'm sure they can repeal the Act in about an hour. We've no cash for this.
Then let them repeal the law. Until then they are in breach of it. A state should not break its own laws - do you agree with this principle?
 

turdsl

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We are taking money from blind widows, closing hospitals and leaving school kids in prefabs. Our expenditure exceeds our revenue by €20 Billion a year, every year, and our bank bail out is costing €26 Billion and counting.

And you want the State to spend money on eradicating Ragwort? Are you even on this planet? We are BROKE! Like totally broke. Smashed. Haven't a pot to pi$$ in. Zero cash. Are you crazy loons getting this yet?!

There is no shortage of money for ministers, I dont see any of them getting rid of their state cars, Bertie still has his little helpers, No, Brian Lenihan would rather raid the poor and blind.
Times were bad in the 40s and 50s, still the local Garda would be on to you if you had ragworth on your land.
 

Aindriu

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I hate to break it to you but it is against the law to have ragwort growing on your land, including state land. By tolerating it they are breaking the law. Do you commonly believe that the state should fount its own laws?

Noxious Weeds Act, 1936
Ye are wasting your time with that eejit.
 

Bebsaboo

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Then let them repeal the law. Until then they are in breach of it. A state should not break its own laws - do you agree with this principle?
His point isn't about principle, it's about practicality. Having said that I'd support someone shifting a few lads off the dole queue to sort this out. It wouldn't take anglo levels of cash to get it solved and it'd be money spent on welfare payments anyway.
 
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