Real agenda - return of the one party state we had during the pre-2010 celtic tiger era?

shiel

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What does that even mean... "natural party of government"?
It means that they stay in power, as one of their media supporters declared, 'till hell freezes over'.

It means, as RoscommonFF says so eloquently in his post [92], 'Roll on the next GE' when 'Kenny will get his spineless arse handed to him'.

It means a return to the one party state that we had in the pre-2009 celtic tiger era.
 


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All I can say is that every country has planning issues and **** ups. The vast majority of the homes built are not like Longboat Quay or in ghost estates and we increased our stock of modern homes dramatically because we let rip and we urgently needed to do that at the time.
Every country has some level of incompetence. But the better run ones, of which there are plenty in Europe, have better building stock connected to infrastructure than we have, or will have for the foreseeable future.

Looks like you're entirely comfortable with the side-effects of FF's bubble economics, including massive budget deficits, massive debt repayments (which would fund substantial extra health spending, and infrastructure and education costs each year)). Not to mention the loss of jobs and emigration.

Well played, Bertieboy. Thanks for the cashburn economics during the best opportunity we've ever had for sustainable economic development in this country.
 

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It means that they stay in power, as one of their media supporters declared, 'till hell freezes over'.

It means, as RoscommonFF says so eloquently in his post [92], 'Roll on the next GE' when 'Kenny will get his spineless arse handed to him'.

It means a return to the one party state that we had in the pre-2009 celtic tiger era.
I'll let the FFer respond to my question before I respond to these, shiel.
 

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Every country has some level of incompetence. But the better run ones, of which there are plenty in Europe, have better building stock connected to infrastructure than we have, or will have for the foreseeable future.

Looks like you're entirely comfortable with the side-effects of FF's bubble economics, including massive budget deficits, massive debt repayments (which would fund substantial extra health spending, and infrastructure and education costs each year)). Not to mention the loss of jobs and emigration.

Well played, Bertieboy. Thanks for the cashburn economics during the best opportunity we've ever had for sustainable economic development in this country.
+1
 

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For a 1000 years Ireland was relatively speaking one of the poorest countries in Europe. During the Celtic Tiger era this changed to Ireland being one of the wealthiest.
It was literally Ireland's Golden Age.
In my home village a lovely brand new primary school was built with a creche where children could get pre-school education for the first time ever. Also a new playground. Also in the local town new Tesco, Lidl and Aldi stores were built whereas before people only had a crappy spar to shop in.
In the local town a brand new Primary Care Centre was built with a range of Health Services provided.
A sewage treatment plant was built whereas before ************************ used to flow directly into the local river.
Within 4 miles of the village a brand new motorway between Dublin and Cork was built.
Several housing estates were built in the local town and even 1 in my home village so people could have nice modern homes to live in.
All of this stuff happened during the boom and was only possible becuase the money flowed like the Niagara Falls into Ireland. It was allowed to flow by our European friends. Thanks to them!
Yes the bubble burst in the end but they can't take all of that stuff away from us now.
Is it any wonder that the Government in place during such a great era was continually re-elected?.
But could that not be managed without bankrupting the country?

Most countries managed to modernise without bankrupting the country.
 

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Just to remind ourselves where we were in 2010.

Quote from media November 22, 2010 on the bailout announced that day.

Eighty billion euro bailout.

Reduce deficit from 32pc of national income to 3pc in 2014.

Fifteen billion of spending cuts and taxation increases.

Property tax to be introduced.

Pledge to introduce water charges.

Cut the minimum wage.

Widen that tax net.

Cut child benefit and all other welfare payments except state pensions.

Levy on public sector pensioners.

Cut legal fees.

20,000 public sector job losses.

That certainly puts the oul' water charge rumpus in perspective and highlights where we have come from since 2010.
 

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We've been governed by Fianna Gael all my life.......Time for a change, le cúnamh Dé.

Nollaig Shona dhíbh go léir.
 

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Just to remind ourselves where we were in 2010.

Quote from media November 22, 2010 on the bailout announced that day.

Eighty billion euro bailout.

Reduce deficit from 32pc of national income to 3pc in 2014.

Fifteen billion of spending cuts and taxation increases.

Property tax to be introduced.

Pledge to introduce water charges.

Cut the minimum wage.

Widen that tax net.

Cut child benefit and all other welfare payments except state pensions.

Levy on public sector pensioners.

Cut legal fees.

20,000 public sector job losses.

That certainly puts the oul' water charge rumpus in perspective and highlights where we have come from since 2010.
That's the one recommendation that wasn't allowed happen, everything else was fair game. You seem to suggest that such an action would be a negative?
 

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That's the one recommendation that wasn't allowed happen, everything else was fair game. You seem to suggest that such an action would be a negative?
I was quoting the list of actions thought necessary in order to highlight how serious the situation was.

The fact that government was spending 32% of total national income more than than it was taking in taxes was one of the more serious issues.

The water charges and the legal fees seemed to have caused problems.

Whether they should or not depends on opinion and vested interest.
 

shiel

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FF are the natural party of Government on the island of Ireland.
Roll on the next GE, Kenny will get his spineless arse handed to him.

Given the recent coverage of the self righteous independent/social democrat/independent candidate joining the people who bankrupt the country to media acclaim Roscommon seems to have it right.
 


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