Record surge in CO2 in 2016

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We're all responsible for the destruction of the planet.
The begging, whining last words of denialists getting their brains knocked out through their nostrils. :lol:
 


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Some part of me hopes that the biosphere collapses in my own lifetime. Just imagine how satisfying it would be (just before the end), to march the denialists out the back and brutally club them to death for their indiscretions. Wouldn't that be worth surviving for? :)
Plenty of non-alarmists care about the planet - what they object to is the craven greenwash agenda which serves nothing more than to line the pockets of vested like wind power speculators etc.. Issues like poaching of endangered species, industrial farming, plastic pollution etc. are not getting the attention they deserve thanx to the actions and propaganda of the climate cretins!!
 
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The begging, whining last words of denialists getting their brains knocked out through their nostrils. :lol:
You clearly don't understand climate change. It's not going to be a single cataclysmic event. So you won't be rounding up climate change deniers at T minus 1 hour for a sound beating.

You may even find yourself having your own brains being beaten out by a raging mob, if/when oil prices spike, and there's no lecky on tap.
 
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Plenty of non-alarmists care about the planet - what they object to is the craven greenwash agenda which serves nothing more than to line the pockets of vested like wind power speculators etc.. Issues like poaching of endangered species, industrial farming, plastic pollution etc. are not getting the attention they deserve thanx to the actions and propaganda of the climate cretins!!
There's a thread on these forums about the protest against Apple's data centre in Athenry.

Some of those people whining about the protestors, also like to whine about climate change deniers.

Rather odd that they can't see they're part of the problem too.
 

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Plenty of non-alarmists care about the planet - what they object to is the craven greenwash agenda which serves nothing more than to line the pockets of vested like wind power speculators etc.. Issues like poaching of endangered species, industrial farming, plastic pollution etc. are not getting the attention they deserve thanx to the actions and propaganda of the climate cretins!!
So you agree that anthropogenic climate change is real, but disagree that it is a cause for alarm; due to vested interests relating to other forms of environmental pollution?

What do you suggest should be done?
 

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No. Variations in Earth’s orbit alter the amount of energy Earth receives from the Sun.

However CO2 levels in the atmosphere always tracked closely those energy levels.




But your question is a strawman, as its logic is inadequate to these phenomena. You seem to be trying to postulate some linear "cause and effect". But that is not the way complex systems such as we are talking about behave. Rather, you find "cause and effect" diminishes, and instead you begin to observe such phenomena as emergence, spontaneous order, adaptation, and feedback loops, among other phenomena, as complexity of the system increases.

Of course, the complexity inherent in the "system" involved in planetary climate regulation is immense.
I was able to track your chart to the Museum of Arts and Science in Daytona Florida.

The fill article of which it is part is here: Science 101: Global Warming (or: On the Interdisciplinary Socioeconomic, Geopolitical and Environmental Causality of Global Climate Change in Relation to the Ecosystem of the Earth as a Habitation for Homo Sapiens.)

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“But Jason, you fool,” one might say, “the Earth goes through periodic climate cycles, solar cycles, and natural environmental changes! Can’t these types of things be the sources of our problems?” Good theory!

However, since 1978, satellites have directly measured the energy output of the sun. In that time, we’ve actually seen a tiny drop in solar irradiance, so the sun is definitely not putting out more energy than usual. Additionally, if the warming were caused by a more active sun, we would expect to see warmer temperatures in all layers of the atmosphere.

Instead, we’ve observed a cooling in the upper atmosphere and a warming in the lower atmosphere. This is due to the greenhouse gases trapping and condensing the heat closer to the surface. We’ve been able to rule out every other possible natural source of temperature increase as well.


It is worth pointing out that your chart ends at the start of the current "Interglacial", maybe 10,000 years ago.


420,000 years of ice core data from Vostok, Antarctica research station. Current period is at right. From bottom to top: * Solar variation at 65°N due to en:Milankovitch cycles (connected to 18O).
* 18O isotope of oxygen.
* Levels of methane (CH4).
* Relative temperature.
* Levels of carbon dioxide (CO2).


Ice core basics
 

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You clearly don't understand climate change. It's not going to be a single cataclysmic event. So you won't be rounding up climate change deniers at T minus 1 hour for a sound beating.

You may even find yourself having your own brains being beaten out by a raging mob, if/when oil prices spike, and there's no lecky on tap.
Are you an anthropogenic climate change denier?
 

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So you agree that anthropogenic climate change is real, but disagree that it is a cause for alarm; due to vested interests relating to other forms of environmental pollution?

What do you suggest should be done?
No use asking Turbinator for a level-headed discussion.

He will just cover his ears and chant mantra-like slogans.
 
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Are you an anthropogenic climate change denier?
Ummm...a skeptic.

However, I'm certain that you won't be beating any deniers up, for two reasons (1) you're a pu$$y (2) you'll be too busy sh1tting yourself when a single cataclysmic event does strike the earth.

No more global warming problems :)
 

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Ummm...a skeptic.

However, I'm certain that you won't be beating any deniers up, for two reasons (1) you're a pu$$y (2) you'll be too busy sh1tting yourself when a single cataclysmic event does strike the earth.

No more global warming problems :)
I love the smell of unsolicited fear in the morning.

Thanks for that. :)
 

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So you agree that anthropogenic climate change is real, but disagree that it is a cause for alarm; due to vested interests relating to other forms of environmental pollution?

What do you suggest should be done?
The climate has always been changing - the alarmists would have us believe that "bad weather" is something that only came along recently. They also clearly don't understand natural phenomenon like El Nino etc.
 

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The climate has always been changing - the alarmists would have us believe that "bad weather" is something that only came along recently. They also clearly don't understand natural phenomenon like El Nino etc.
Would you like to tell us the difference between weather and climate. Then explain to us what you believe is going on that climate scientists allegedly can't tell the difference. :roll:
 

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Would you like to tell us the difference between weather and climate. Then explain to us what you believe is going on that climate scientists allegedly can't tell the difference. :roll:

I was making the point that twits like you put down every bout of bad weather these days to "climate change".
 

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Good post in Skeptical Science about the current year CO2.


"The numbers don't lie. We are still emitting far too much and this needs to be reversed. The last few years have seen enormous uptake of renewable energy, but we must now redouble our efforts to ensure these new low-carbon technologies are able to thrive. We have many of the solutions already to address this challenge. What we need now is global political will and a new sense of urgency," said Erik Solheim, head of UN Environment.

The present CO2 concentration is the highest in 800 000 years.

https://skepticalscience.com/GHG-concentrations-new-record.html
 
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Anyone notice the price of diesel/petrol today? I wonder did the regulators/fuel stations take advantage of the rail strike.
 

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Would you like to tell us the difference between weather and climate. Then explain to us what you believe is going on that climate scientists allegedly can't tell the difference. :roll:
You're a fockin ass hole . Don't know the difference between the weather and the climate, are you a child?

the state of the atmosphere at a particular place and time as regards heat, cloudiness, dryness, sunshine, wind, rain, etc.

the weather conditions prevailing in an area in general or over a long period.
 

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[video=youtube;aQUlA8Hcv4s]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQUlA8Hcv4s[/video]
 

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[video=youtube;AdKNlGfkyhc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdKNlGfkyhc[/video]

The sweet smell of a great sorrow lies over the land
Plumes of smoke rise and merge into the leaden sky
A man lies and dreams of green fields and rivers
But awakes to a morning with no reason for waking


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Under 1% increase is a record?
Well, if you centurize a 1% per annum, it's a 170% increase, which is a sh!t rate of return on an investment, but a big increase in levels of carbon dioxide or any other gas on a planet
 


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