Red Poppy


Niall996

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They were imperialists among imperialists. I doubt they killed any more people than the Spanish or French.
Morality is not something that was invented in the 20th century - clearly. People have possessed a moral compass since the beginning of humanity. They knew what they were doing, they knew it was wrong but they simply turned a blind eye due to greed and justified it to themselves. Murder in the 1800's can be absolutely viewed as murder today.
 

CookieMonster

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The red poppy is to raise money for those who have been left disadvantaged by their time in Service. This is a perfectly reasonable way to raise money so that the British government does not have to fund the people who have been given of their life or well being for their state.

Their is the alternative such as the white poppy which I think we should embrace in "Northern Ireland". This would allow both communities to be able to show respect for all the dead of the various conflicts.


Note on how some of the red poppy money is spent:


You may also like to know that the Peace Pledge Union's annual turnover is similar to the annual salary (£95,000+) of the British Legion's chief executive.

White Poppies for Peace
The British Legion's income last year was £159.2m. Not sure I see a problem with someone managing an organisation of that size on a c£100k salary.
 

between the bridges

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The British Legion's income last year was £159.2m. Not sure I see a problem with someone managing an organisation of that size on a c£100k salary.
Pffft, common sense in the nordie forum! Shooo ye troll....
 

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The two clowns yapping about the poppy and then praising a man photographed holding a poppy wreath, the mastermind chair awaits...
 

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I've given up on the poppy too over the last year or two, I'm afraid. There's far too much English nationalism tied up in it in Britain, and the language of remembrance has got steadily more militaristic over the last decade or so. I'm not happy about my changed attitude, but there it is.

I used to honour the tradition as a means of symbolising remembrance of the dead, but the language used by the remembrance faction, all the way up to the top politicians, increasingly speaks, at least implicitly, of heroic martyrs. That silly May woman solemnly enthusing about how steadfast they all were is a case in point.

Personally, I don't think the heroic dead have any more right to our remembrance, gratitude or indeed our respect, than the unheroic ones who chanced to find themselves under a random shell.

Around the corner from my house there's a large memorial to 13 or so thousand of the Russians who died in the terrible effort to remove the Nazis from Berlin. I prefer to just visit that place quietly every now and then.
 

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The two clowns yapping about the poppy and then praising a man photographed holding a poppy wreath, the mastermind chair awaits...
:roll: as per usual you dont understand whats in front of you .. you truly are as thick as it gets ... but here, keep er lit son, I just love to see you show it off :)
 

sauntersplash

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Morality is not something that was invented in the 20th century - clearly. People have possessed a moral compass since the beginning of humanity. They knew what they were doing, they knew it was wrong but they simply turned a blind eye due to greed and justified it to themselves. Murder in the 1800's can be absolutely viewed as murder today.
Well that's just not true. Ethical decision-making across societies very clearly changes as time passes.
 

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:roll: as per usual you dont understand whats in front of you .. you truly are as thick as it gets ... but here, keep er lit son, I just love to see you show it off :)
Jaysus, look at yerself, ffs: you're acting like a bleeding eleven-year-old.

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And as for your punctuation ...
 

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I prefer the Easter Lily.....I am Irish...
And it makes you look like a real hard man with all the other pisshead bar stool republicans
 

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In 1987 the IRA, an organisation that had worked for Hitler in WW2, bombed a memorial
for the people that fought Hitler.:sick:

Murdered the poppy wearers.:mad2:

Enniskillen - on this day...:frown:
 

RasherHash

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In 1987 the IRA, an organisation that had worked for Hitler in WW2, bombed a memorial
for the people that fought Hitler.:sick:

Murdered the poppy wearers.:mad2:

Enniskillen - on this day...:frown:
You dishonour the victims every day with your lying tripe :rolleyes2:
 

death or glory

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In 1987 the IRA, an organisation that had worked for Hitler in WW2, bombed a memorial
for the people that fought Hitler.:sick:

Murdered the poppy wearers.:mad2:

Enniskillen - on this day...:frown:
We will remember them.
 
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