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RedC PaddyPower Poll: FF28(-1) FG27(+1) SF15(+2) Ind10(+3) Lab4(-2) AAA/PBP4(-1) Grn3(-1) SD3(-1)

sport02

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New poll out this morning. FF on top followed very closely by FG.
Sinn Féin still struggling to get anywhere close to FF with Labour still falling off a cliff, neck in neck with Paul and Ruth.
That Howlin bounce just never materialised.

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FF 28 (-1 2wks)
FG 27(+1)
SF 15(+2)
Ind 10(+3)
IA 5
Lab 4(-2)
AAAPBP 4(-1)
SD 3(-1)
GP 3(-1)
ors 1
 


Just Jack

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Sinn Féin has basically replaced the Labour party, not Fianna Fáil.

This will be a nightmare for the Establishment, for while they can be pleased that the Blueshirts and the Fáilures are ahead, the party which routinely propped up either of the ugly sisters is now dead.
 

commonman

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FF can pull the plug ant day,they are back at the top after all they done irish voters are a funny lot.
 

sport02

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Sinn Féin has basically replaced the Labour party, not Fianna Fáil.

This will be a nightmare for the Establishment, for while they can be pleased that the Blueshirts and the Fáilures are ahead, the party which routinely propped up either of the ugly sisters is now dead.
Why would the establishment fear Sinn Féin, they're not up for government and Gerry will never lead SF as the most popular party.
 

carlovian

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Nobody else to vote for.


Having said which, all the movement is within the margin of error.
Labour at 4% and clinging to water charges with grim determination.

Can someone tell them to drop the water charges and concentrate on the social issues that distinguishes them from other parties.
 

statsman

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Sinn Féin has basically replaced the Labour party, not Fianna Fáil.

This will be a nightmare for the Establishment, for while they can be pleased that the Blueshirts and the Fáilures are ahead, the party which routinely propped up either of the ugly sisters is now dead.
On these figures, there is no viable government on offer. Another election might bring about an FF-led minority government dependent on the goodwill of FG. That would be as unstable as the current arrangement. And that would depend on FF getting enough Indo support, something they failed to do just a few months ago.
 
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cogar

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Isn't it amazing that even with all the doom and gloom about FG, Enda and a wobbly start FG is now 1% behind FF.

By the next election FG will have a new leader who can focus on reenergising the party.

The Shinners will hold on to Adams as their leader and not threaten FF too much.

Labour will have a long stint in the recovery ward.

Martin will be favourite to be Taoiseach after the next election - his last chance, possibly.
 

hammer

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Labour at 4% and clinging to water charges with grim determination.

Can someone tell them to drop the water charges and concentrate on the social issues that distinguishes them from other parties.
Do they not have advisors :)
 

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Isn't it amazing that even with all the doom and gloom about FG, Enda and a wobbly start FG is now 1% behind FF.

By the next election FG will have a new leader who can focus on reenergising the party.

The Shinners will hold on to Adams as their leader and not threaten FF too much.

Labour will have a long stint in the recovery ward.

Martin will be favourite to be Taoiseach after the next election - his last chance, possibly.
Mehole might very well be favourite but the media will then really focus on his history. Wont they :)
He had an easy run in GE 2016.
 

statsman

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Lefties DEAD in the water even after 8 years of austerity.
People don't take you seriously, Hammer, but you're not wrong on this. The cumulative 'left of centre' party vote is down 3 points, at 29%. Throw in another ~3% from Left Indos and you have a picture of a disunited Left running at less than a third of the popular vote, with a real possibility that the polls are overestimating what would happen in an actual election. It is, to be fair, a dispiriting performance.
 
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statsman

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Labour at 4% and clinging to water charges with grim determination.

Can someone tell them to drop the water charges and concentrate on the social issues that distinguishes them from other parties.
Water charges are the least of their problems.
 

constitutionus

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Why would the establishment fear Sinn Féin, they're not up for government and Gerry will never lead SF as the most popular party.
and that means ANY gov from now on will be in the same mold as our current one i.e propped up by "de enemy"

its a nightmare for FF/FG as its goal for business as usual is dead.

personaly im delighted the 2 and a half party system is dead . the only thing making me happier is the notion that pat rabbittes party now has as much support as paul murphy and co.

:D :D :D :D : D

the pets head must be about to explode with indignant rage. "loony left" and "tear everything down" types being MORE popular than his lot when ya combine em together.
 

hammer

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People don't take you seriously, Hammer, but you're not wrong on this. The cumulative 'left of centre' party vote is down 3 points, at 29%. Throw in another ~3% form Left Indos and you have a picture of a disunited Left running at less than a third of the popular vote, with a real possibility that the polls are overestimating what would happen in an actual election. It is, to be fair, a dispiriting performance.
Its p.ie FFS. Its only for a bit of fun :) especially since the SF / Doomster shills became the majority
 

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yep, a 2% rise for SF (twice the percentage increase 'enjoyed' by the FGangsters). that will teach them :rolleyes:
The blueshirt doomsters, the ones controlled by the FFailures, won't be happy that SF have a 2% increase here compared to their 1%.
They can cry about it on doomstersareus.com, that's if Mehole lets them.
 

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