Registration Fees to rise by €800 - Irish Times

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The fees for college are set to rise by €800, according to the Irish Times front page (no links yet).

Presumably Paul Gogarty will accept this, the fees won't be going over €2,500.

I think that means that fees will cost around €2,300-€2,400, quite a lot of money for some people.

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THE GOVERNMENT has abandoned plans to double the student registration fee. Instead, students face an increase of €500-€800, bringing total charges to just over €2,000.

Sources confirmed the proposed doubling of the €1,500 student registration charge is “off the agenda”. Negotiations on the precise charge are still continuing between Fianna Fáil and Green Party Ministers in the run-up to the budget.
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/frontpage/2010/1111/1224283093755.html
 
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The fees for college are set to rise by €800, according to the Irish Times front page (no links yet).

Presumably Paul Gogarty will accept this, the fees won't be going over €2,500.

I think that means that fees will cost around €2,300-€2,400, quite a lot of money for some people.
It's not bad for a years tuition really.
 

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The fees for college are set to rise by €800, according to the Irish Times front page (no links yet).

Presumably Paul Gogarty will accept this, the fees won't be going over €2,500.

I think that means that fees will cost around €2,300-€2,400, quite a lot of money for some people.
Only part of the sorry story ... other part comes when they graduate/qualify ... where to then after all the financial shelling out by dedicated parents?

Presumably somewhere other than here if lucky ...

You can thank FF for a large part of that and their 13 years of being in charge of this land and its people. They were in power, they had the policies, they had the governing - what happened, where it went, what people did, what people were able to do - happened on their watch

And it's shagged

Thanks FF ... thanks for nothing
 

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It's not bad for a years tuition really.
Its an awful lot for those that come from not well off background and fail to qualify for any grant. (Which are loads)

This comes as no surprise to anyone really.

The fact that the Students Unions protested against potential €3,000 fees has now made this increase seem acceptable. If for example they protested against a more logical €2000 it would have ended up with little or no increase. Thanks USI, your all great.
 

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An increase of €800 seems to contradict everything that the Greens supposedly stand for. And who knows, if the government limps on for another year, will they increase fees again?
 

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Its an awful lot for those that come from not well off background and fail to qualify for any grant. (Which are loads)

This comes as no surprise to anyone really.

The fact that the Students Unions protested against potential €3,000 fees has now made this increase seem acceptable. If for example they protested against a more logical €2000 it would have ended up with little or no increase. Thanks USI, your all great.
Setting the bar at three grand gave the government free reign to increase fees to anything beneath €2,500 or so, and made it seem as if USI had saved students a couple of hundred. Ra, ra, Redmond!
 

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Setting the bar at three grand gave the government free reign to increase fees to anything beneath €2,500 or so, and made it seem as if USI had saved students a couple of hundred. Ra, ra, Redmond!
FF are great at those old tricks. There are reports of about 900 euro property tax on each house, and when 600-700 is announced, people will feel they got off lightly.
 

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One of our children attends a university and the other an Institute of Technology. Both pay the E1500 fee. The Uni. lecturers rarely miss a class but the I.T. lecturers are always cancelling sometimes without notice. They seem to be very disorganised with regard to timetables and timekeeping. Errors in exam results are not uncommon either.
 

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I’m no fan of FF, but people need to get real and stop saying no to everything.
Batt O’Keeffe brought a simple, workable solution to cabinet 18 months ago; any family earning over €150,000 would pay fees; this was rejected.

Those middle income families who will have to pay this increase should ‘thank’ those that rejected such a plan.
 

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Increases are needed in order to reduce universities' unsustainable dependence on non-EEA tuition-fee paying students, which displaces Irish aspirant students from third-level places and contributes to a clandestine parallel [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_market"]Black market - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia@@AMEPARAM@@/wiki/File:%D0%A5%D0%B0%D1%80%D1%8C%D0%BA.%D0%BD%D0%B0%D0%B1.%D0%BB.8_%D0%A1%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%BA%D1%83%D0%BB%D1%8F%D0%BD%D1%82_VizuIMG_3671.JPG" class="image"><img alt="" src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7e/%D0%A5%D0%B0%D1%80%D1%8C%D0%BA.%D0%BD%D0%B0%D0%B1.%D0%BB.8_%D0%A1%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%BA%D1%83%D0%BB%D1%8F%D0%BD%D1%82_VizuIMG_3671.JPG/179px-%D0%A5%D0%B0%D1%80%D1%8C%D0%BA.%D0%BD%D0%B0%D0%B1.%D0%BB.8_%D0%A1%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%BA%D1%83%D0%BB%D1%8F%D0%BD%D1%82_VizuIMG_3671.JPG"@@AMEPARAM@@commons/thumb/7/7e/%D0%A5%D0%B0%D1%80%D1%8C%D0%BA.%D0%BD%D0%B0%D0%B1.%D0%BB.8_%D0%A1%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%BA%D1%83%D0%BB%D1%8F%D0%BD%D1%82_VizuIMG_3671.JPG/179px-%D0%A5%D0%B0%D1%80%D1%8C%D0%BA.%D0%BD%D0%B0%D0%B1.%D0%BB.8_%D0%A1%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%BA%D1%83%D0%BB%D1%8F%D0%BD%D1%82_VizuIMG_3671.JPG[/ame]. However, the ultimate solution is a return to tuition-fees but to means-test them. Universal-benefits are unsustainable both in economic and moral terms. Free-fees have not increased working-class representation in universities on a proportional-basis, as Professor Ferdinand von Prondzynski explained in the IT article this week. All it does is transfer resources from the working-classes to the upper-middle and upper-classes. Irish taxpayer's should not have to pay for the children of moguls like Michael O'Leary to go to Third Level. No offence to the man - but him and his like can afford to pay tuition-fees themselves. They don't need taxpayer's money. The introduction of free tuition-fees was a deplorable and cynical ploy by Labour to secure their middle-class support-base.
 

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The thing people forget about these Reg fees is that 55 percent of students dont have to pay them.
 

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If we have to go down this road of increased fees (Which is looking that way)..

We need means testing and although I don't agree with it we also need something like a UK system were the student takes on the debit till they earn enough to pay it back.

To just increase and offer no alternative is the usual thoughtlessness from the government...
 

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Increases are needed in order to reduce universities' unsustainable dependence on non-EEA tuition-fee paying students, which displaces Irish aspirant students from third-level places and contributes to a clandestine parallel Black market - Wikipedia, the free [email]encyclopedia. However, the ultimate solution is a return to tuition-fees but to means-test them. Universal-benefits are unsustainable both in economic and moral terms. Free-fees have not increased working-class representation in universities on a proportional-basis, as Professor Ferdinand von Prondzynski explained in the IT article this week. All it does is transfer resources from the working-classes to the upper-middle and upper-classes. Irish taxpayer's should not have to pay for the children of moguls like Michael O'Leary to go to Third Level. No offence to the man - but him and his like can afford to pay tuition-fees themselves. They don't need taxpayer's money. The introduction of free tuition-fees was a deplorable and cynical ploy by Labour to secure their middle-class support-base.
Have you a link for the article you quote there? Thanks.....
 

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Registration fees - should not be required if tuition fees re-introduced.

3rd level tuition fees - Double the average working wage.
If household income is above this then means test for tuition fees.
If household income is below this then free fees should apply.

3rd level tuition fees - Triple the average working wage.
If household income is above this then tuition fees should be paid by student/parents.

3rd level tuition fees - if 2nd level educaion was fee paying (not through scholarship) - tuition fees should be paid by student/parents.
 

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Grants / Maintenance for students - as per my previous post with an opt in for every student - some students parents won't give them sufficient funds even when they themselves are extremely wealthy. The student needs funds and finds part time work, often to the detriment of their studies.

Parent/student deposit ? Partial deposit recovery ? Pay back loan after graduation ? What criteria ?

What about those who don't graduate - ie the drop outs ?
 

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When you add in accomodation, books, etc....... expensive for country people :(
Expensive for all people needing to move away from home. Many people choice of course is'nt avaible in their local college and they need to move to a different city/ town. Education is'nt free. 1500 at the moment must go some decent way to paying for expenses of courses.
 


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