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Reich-Wing Economics: Let 'em Die! 'Yeah!'

Mr Aphorisms

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Just taking a break from studying tariffs and so on, I was looking Trump's economic policies regarding China and protectionism and some clips of him trying to see if there were any detailed speeches about his economic policies. Anyway, as you do on youtube, you wander off onto other videos. I came across a previous debate clip with Trump where Cruz and Rubio launched an attack on Trump for not wanting people to 'not let people die on the street'.

Cruz just kept saying this was socialized medicine and that Trump was wrong because it would have been 'government healthcare'. Truly bizarre reich-wing economics which probably would have had Noczick raising an eyebrow or two - even before he thrashed most of his sociopathic views later on in life.

[video=youtube;g8-YD7yVBjo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8-YD7yVBjo[/video]

This was what happened when Ron Paul was asked similar questions in 2012. He too said that dying was a result of having liberty and no healthcare should be provided by the government. This death question was met with cheers of 'yeah' by dissident republicans - who have gone so far off the rails that Eisenhower would be regarded as a communist now.

There was a problem that these dissidents forget however, particularaly Paul. One of Ron Paul's campaign team died and was unable to afford healthcare. No church, charity, friends or family could raise the support for him and the libertarian view of charity and friends for help could not even be supported by rich libertarians espousing these ideas, such as Paul himself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8T9fk7NpgIU - let 'em die

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EN2Bl_LySws - Paul manager

I don't support Trump, by the way. He's all over the gaf - but some policies make sense, such as tariffs, protect social security, look after veterans, help single mothers and a few more - but the fact that Trump would come across as a socialist for not wanting to let people die is seriously unhinged. It just shows how precipitously the republican party has fallen into chaos. As Bill maher accurately pointed out: the democrats have moed to the right and the republicans into the mental asylum.

It has no basis in reality, this reich wing economic fantasy land. It is dangerous and anything close to it being implemented has resulted in privation for the poor and excessive wealth for a tiny elite of indivdiuals.
 


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This election will answer the question : "How much does America hate Hillary?"

Can't buy Trump as a Republican.
 

raspberry tea

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- a HYSTERICAL post if ever i saw one,throw in a few buzzwords like reich and isms and you are off...:)
 

Mad as Fish

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Haven't we heard the same sort of thing on P.ie? Cutting off welfare after two years of unemployment, removal of medical cards from vulnerable groups etc. You don't have to go to America to hear this fascist sh!t.
 

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Just taking a break from studying tariffs and so on, I was looking Trump's economic policies regarding China and protectionism and some clips of him trying to see if there were any detailed speeches about his economic policies. Anyway, as you do on youtube, you wander off onto other videos. I came across a previous debate clip with Trump where Cruz and Rubio launched an attack on Trump for not wanting people to 'not let people die on the street'.

Cruz just kept saying this was socialized medicine and that Trump was wrong because it would have been 'government healthcare'. Truly bizarre reich-wing economics which probably would have had Noczick raising an eyebrow or two - even before he thrashed most of his sociopathic views later on in life.

[video=youtube;g8-YD7yVBjo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8-YD7yVBjo[/video]

This was what happened when Ron Paul was asked similar questions in 2012. He too said that dying was a result of having liberty and no healthcare should be provided by the government. This death question was met with cheers of 'yeah' by dissident republicans - who have gone so far off the rails that Eisenhower would be regarded as a communist now.

There was a problem that these dissidents forget however, particularaly Paul. One of Ron Paul's campaign team died and was unable to afford healthcare. No church, charity, friends or family could raise the support for him and the libertarian view of charity and friends for help could not even be supported by rich libertarians espousing these ideas, such as Paul himself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8T9fk7NpgIU - let 'em die

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EN2Bl_LySws - Paul manager

I don't support Trump, by the way. He's all over the gaf - but some policies make sense, such as tariffs, protect social security, look after veterans, help single mothers and a few more - but the fact that Trump would come across as a socialist for not wanting to let people die is seriously unhinged. It just shows how precipitously the republican party has fallen into chaos. As Bill maher accurately pointed out: the democrats have moed to the right and the republicans into the mental asylum.

It has no basis in reality, this reich wing economic fantasy land. It is dangerous and anything close to it being implemented has resulted in privation for the poor and excessive wealth for a tiny elite of indivdiuals.
It should be pointed out that the right-wing philosopher Ayn Rand and economist Friedrich Hayek both opted for socialised medicine when their own health was at stake. Hayek opted into Social Security when at the University of Chicago, and Rand applied for it.

Friedrich Hayek Joins Ayn Rand as a Hypocritical User of Medicare | naked capitalism

TEA PARTY PATRON SAINT AYN RAND APPLIED FOR SOCIAL SECURITY, MEDICARE BENEFITS

In Donald Trump and Ted Cruz, you have two well-heeled Americans, part of the wealthiest 1%, posturing about "freedom from socialised medicine" when they themselves have deep pockets to pay for healthcare for themselves and their families.

But in the US, where plutocrats are funding "libertarian" think-tanks to agitate for lower taxes on the wealthy, such hypocrisy seems to have faded into the woodwork and not even get noticed by the corporate-owned media any more.

PS Trump, AFAIK, has pledged to roll back the Affordable Care Act, the most progressive step on US healthcare since the 1960s, and has not proposed any replacement.
 

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This election will answer the question : "How much does America hate Hillary?"
I think the answer will be: "A bit less than they hate The Donald".
 

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A least they only promise no services in return for no tax. Around here we have to endure promises of fantastic services for no tax. Odious as Trump is at least he's honest in one sense. You'll get nothing from him.
 

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What's the big deal?apologists for fgff and labour have no problem with kids sleeping in hotel rooms or people dying on hospital trolleys because changing these would involve interference with "the market", and this is seen as totally normal in this country. You don't have to go abroad to find right wing economics.
 

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What's the big deal?apologists for fgff and labour have no problem with kids sleeping in hotel rooms or people dying on hospital trolleys because changing these would involve interference with "the market", and this is seen as totally normal in this country. You don't have to go abroad to find right wing economics.
There is no right-wing politicians in Ireland........NONE! The thing is people like you have to invent the big bad blue eyed white nazi bogeyman to make yourselves relevant,if it wasn't for hitler you lot would be nothing.....FACT..You need to keep digging hitler up to make yourselves relavant....And let me remind you HITLER was a SOCIALIST,on the right yes,but still a SOCIALIST....STALIN was another NOTORIOUS SOCIALIST,on the left - not harmless but a complete and utter tyrant,leftist socialism is all about totalitarianism,my point is; that whether right or left - socialism is DEVASTATING...The problem with the Irish is they have never really gotten a taste of what socialism is all about,(unlike the poles and the east europeans and russians,south americans etc)if they did the whole population of the country would be queing for small rations of food each day,facing EMPTY SUPERMARKETS,look at all the unrest in places like brazil and the state of north korea...That's socialism for you...They would also have the right to take your own home off of you and kick you out on your ear if they wanted to...
 

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There is no right-wing politicians in Ireland........NONE! The thing is people like you have to invent the big bad blue eyed white nazi bogeyman to make yourselves relevant,if it wasn't for hitler you lot would be nothing.....FACT..You need to keep digging hitler up to make yourselves relavant....And let me remind you HITLER was a SOCIALIST,on the right yes,but still a SOCIALIST....STALIN was another NOTORIOUS SOCIALIST,on the left - not harmless but a complete and utter tyrant,leftist socialism is all about totalitarianism,my point is; that whether right or left - socialism is DEVASTATING...The problem with the Irish is they have never really gotten a taste of what socialism is all about,(unlike the poles and the east europeans and russians,south americans etc)if they did the whole population of the country would be queing for small rations of food each day,facing EMPTY SUPERMARKETS,look at all the unrest in places like brazil and the state of north korea...That's socialism for you...They would also have the right to take your own home off of you and kick you out on your ear if they wanted to...
To borrow a pharse - Irish politics has moved to the right and Raspberry Tea has moved into the asylum.
 

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To borrow a pharse - Irish politics has moved to the right and Raspberry Tea has moved into the asylum.
The 'let 'em die crowd tend to represent the demographic which would benefit the most from 'socialised medicine'. Similar to the right wing rant brigade often seen on the comment sections of British news sites castigating the NHS.

Turkeys voting for x-mas.

Early on in the Obama presidency, any possible state involvement proposed in the health sector was compared to nazi-style 'death panels' by his detractors.

Bunch of looneys imho.
 

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There is no right-wing politicians in Ireland........NONE! The thing is people like you have to invent the big bad blue eyed white nazi bogeyman to make yourselves relevant,if it wasn't for hitler you lot would be nothing.....FACT..You need to keep digging hitler up to make yourselves relavant....And let me remind you HITLER was a SOCIALIST,on the right yes,but still a SOCIALIST....STALIN was another NOTORIOUS SOCIALIST,on the left - not harmless but a complete and utter tyrant,leftist socialism is all about totalitarianism,my point is; that whether right or left - socialism is DEVASTATING...The problem with the Irish is they have never really gotten a taste of what socialism is all about,(unlike the poles and the east europeans and russians,south americans etc)if they did the whole population of the country would be queing for small rations of food each day,facing EMPTY SUPERMARKETS,look at all the unrest in places like brazil and the state of north korea...That's socialism for you...They would also have the right to take your own home off of you and kick you out on your ear if they wanted to...
You are an utter fool. Bernie Saunders would be centrist in almost every european country except ireland, where rte and the indo would destroy his character
 

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You are an utter fool. Bernie Saunders would be centrist in almost every european country except ireland, where rte and the indo would destroy his character
RTE could not have any more Marxists on unless they broadcast a 3rd channel. Its wall to wall Coppinger and Boy Barret. They're firm favourites over there. Hardly a show appears without them.
 

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RTE could not have any more Marxists on unless they broadcast a 3rd channel. Its wall to wall Coppinger and Boy Barret. They're firm favourites over there. Hardly a show appears without them.
lol RTE retirement home for the Frank Ross faction of the official IRA/Workers party & all assorted stickies!
 

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lol RTE retirement home for the Frank Ross faction of the official IRA/Workers party & all assorted stickies!
RTE and the media in general are very much left leaning. How does the poster above fail to spot this? You can hardly get much further left than the Irish Times.
 

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Depends, on issues such as immigration they could be considered Swedish-style left, yet they laud neoliberal free work schemes such as Jobsbridge.
Yeah look at what sociailsm did to swedens asylum policy - it is in utter chaos,a swedish worker stabbed to death at an asylum centre,other asylum centre workers raped nearly half to death - one in a wheelchair(you can look it up) - they even let in radicals and if anyone dares whisper a word about it '''racist'' ''nazi'' who wants to kill six million jews etc...
 

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Normally Republicans take a softer line on social conservative issues and open borders and take an extreme economic right wing stance and a loon foreign policy. Trump seems to be aiming for a pragmatic foreign policy, a right wing (but not lunatic right wing like others in his party) economic position and a hard stance on immigration. It's almost like he is appealing to what the voters want rather than the way Dems/Reps used to do it - have a gentleman's agreement to continue open borders, continue the zionist servitude, expand warmongering and generally obey Wall Street.

I wonder, i just wonder if he is really his own boss and to what extent - i still expect him to be no different than the previous occupants (i am not an idiot who falls for his rather forthright way of speaking and controversial statements) but maybe, just maybe...

Hillary on the other hand is THE establishment candidate. Her position on mass immi, Wall Street, Zionism and warmongering is the same as Obama/Bush etc etc.

If he is really different (which as i said i do not believe) he may be killed before he can do anything in office. However i think the repub wacos are all working to make him appear moderate or electable by presenting themselves as extreme - this is why they introduce candidates every four years that talk about the rapture etc (and that one never gets ahead) to make the chosen one look moderate.
 

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