Rejection of Islam and The Rise of Racist attacks post-BREXIT vote

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It's all over the news that there has been a rise in racist attacks following the Brexit.

The common analysis is that the vote to leave has legitimised and emboldened racists who perceive the vote as a tacit support of their hatred.

Numerous posters here have criticised the religion of Islam, not on the basis of the number of Muslims who become terrorists but on the basis that Islam provides support for those who would terrorise.

Does anyone else see these two things as being very similar in mechanism?

Do those who reject Islam in order to reject terrorism also believe that individual Leave voters should have seen how their vote would encourage racist attacks, despite not feeling racist themselves ?

Should Leave voters have voted differently in order to reject extreme racists?
 
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What about the rise of sectarian attacks?

The EU commission and parliament by failing to immediately clarify the status of the border are endangering the Irish peace process.
 

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What about the rise of sectarian attacks?

The EU commission and parliament by failing to immediately clarify the status of the border are endangering the Irish peace process.
The Irish government as the only legit power in Ireland should sort that out.
 

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Yes, you are absolutely right. At all times we should be thinking "will this action increase the possibility of racism?" or "will it increase the possibility of perception by some people that other people harbour racist thoughts?"
 

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It's all over the news that there has been a rise in racist attacks following the Brexit.

The common analysis is that the vote to leave has legitimised and emboldened racists who perceive the vote as a tacit support of their hatred.

Numerous posters here have criticised the religion of Islam, not on the basis of the number of Muslims who become terrorists but on the basis that Islam provides support for those who would terrorise.

Does anyone else see these two things as being very similar in mechanism?

Do those who reject Islam in order to reject terrorism also believe that individual Leave voters should have seen how their vote would encourage racist attacks, despite not feeling racist themselves ?

Should Leave voters have voted differently in order to reject extreme racists?
It bulshyte and been used by the media and establishment to smear the brexiters .Rev up the hate against them no better way than to use the good old race card .
 

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It's all over the news that there has been a rise in racist attacks following the Brexit.

The common analysis is that the vote to leave has legitimised and emboldened racists who perceive the vote as a tacit support of their hatred.

Numerous posters here have criticised the religion of Islam, not on the basis of the number of Muslims who become terrorists but on the basis that Islam provides support for those who would terrorise.

Does anyone else see these two things as being very similar in mechanism?

Do those who reject Islam in order to reject terrorism also believe that individual Leave voters should have seen how their vote would encourage racist attacks, despite not feeling racist themselves ?

Should Leave voters have voted differently in order to reject extreme racists?

No, because that's taking the actions of a few as some sort of barometer for the views of the majority.

Whether the groups are Muslim's, leave voters, Irish whatever.
 

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It bulshyte and been used by the media and establishment to smear the brexiters .Rev up the hate against them no better way than to use the good old race card .
Well the Brexiters used the race card themselves right through the campaign and before.

The border issue has become an issue again because of the Brexiters.

They have effectively torn up the Good Friday Agreement.
 

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Well the Brexiters used the race card themselves right through the campaign and before.

The border issue has become an issue again because of the Brexiters.

They have effectively torn up the Good Friday Agreement.
How?
The border never went away after the GFA. It just reverted to pre 1970 status.
 

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Well the Brexiters used the race card themselves right through the campaign and before.

The border issue has become an issue again because of the Brexiters.

They have effectively torn up the Good Friday Agreement.
No they have not. The GFA has nothing essentially to do with the EU. It remains in place. Cameron has said that the border between the ROI and NI is will remain as is but that there will be tighter border controls for people coming from NI into the UK mainland so if anything the border is weakened.
 

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Many people of colour have voted leave. Sick and tired of seeing racists from Eastern Europe landing on their doorstep.

Why do some ethnic minority voters want to leave the EU? | Politics | The Guardian
Time and again in little studio focus groups, black and asian people said they would vote Leave. Not a solid sample, but interesting. They have no white guilt and they make rational choices. And, they know they won't be accused of waycism because moronic leftwits only ever accuse white people of waycism. So it's easier for them to be honest.
 

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Britain are like America

when they're not bullying people abroad.. they bully people at home
 

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It's all over the news that there has been a rise in racist attacks following the Brexit.

The common analysis is that the vote to leave has legitimised and emboldened racists who perceive the vote as a tacit support of their hatred.

Numerous posters here have criticised the religion of Islam, not on the basis of the number of Muslims who become terrorists but on the basis that Islam provides support for those who would terrorise.

Does anyone else see these two things as being very similar in mechanism?

Do those who reject Islam in order to reject terrorism also believe that individual Leave voters should have seen how their vote would encourage racist attacks, despite not feeling racist themselves ?

Should Leave voters have voted differently in order to reject extreme racists?
Absolutely.Those concerned about mass migration should have voted for EU mass migration because filling the UK with immigrants is the best way to alleviate concerns about mass migration.
Also remain voters should have voted to leave in order to show they weren't encouraging liberal fascism.

"what you’ve just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul"
 

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It bulshyte and been used by the media and establishment to smear the brexiters .Rev up the hate against them no better way than to use the good old race card .
Absolutely.Those concerned about mass migration should have voted for EU mass migration because filling the UK with immigrants is the best way to alleviate concerns about mass migration.
Also remain voters should have voted to leave in order to show they weren't encouraging liberal fascism.

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You may have missed the point, which was not summed up by the last line of the post.

Do you think that the two arguments described in the OP are similar or is there some reason to accept one and not the other?
 

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Seems like a bit of a self fulfilling prophecy. Instead of telling people who had genuine concerns of immigration which are not motivated by racism (99% of people who have such concerns) the media and the remain did not say "look we hear you we disagree with you in some areas but here are our policies and proposals to address this issue".

Instead what they did was call anyone who raised such an issue a racist or a bigot. Khan days before the vote said that those that had such concerns were engaged in a "project of hate". Please tell me how yelling at some one calling them every name under the sun and then telling them to f**k off it going to convince them to side with you and reach an agreeable compromise?

What has happened instead because the media and remain campaign said any one who raise this issue is a "racist, bigot ect" the actual racists and bigots now feel empowered. You reap what you sow. This is what you get when you polarise politics and engage in name calling rather then genuine debate about policy. Just to be clear I'm not saying that only one side engages in this I my self was in favour of remain why because I looked at the real issues and after looking at them said it makes more sense (based on a range of issues and policies) to remain in then to vote leave. As opposed to simply labelling one side bigoted due to a preconceived notions about those at the fore of their campaign.
 

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Seems like a bit of a self fulfilling prophecy. Instead of telling people who had genuine concerns of immigration which are not motivated by racism (99% of people who have such concerns) the media and the remain did not say "look we hear you we disagree with you in some areas but here are our policies and proposals to address this issue".
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What has happened instead because the media and remain campaign said any one who raise this issue is a "racist, bigot ect" the actual racists and bigots now feel empowered. You reap what you sow. This is what you get when you polarise politics and engage in name calling rather then genuine debate about policy.
That's a really good point, I think it makes a lot of sense. Do you think that same thing could be happening in our discourse about Islam and terrorism?
 

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Two Muslim teenagers have been viciously attacked outside a mosque in New York City by an assailant who shouted anti-Islamic slurs at them, a Muslim advocacy group said.

The New York chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) released a surveillance video of the attack on Monday, calling on police to investigate the incident as a hate crime.


PressTV-Video: Muslim teens attacked in NYC
 


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