Religion in school

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Why do you have to replace superstitious claptrap with anything? - it would be a major positive just getting rid of it as a subject.

But just as - if not more - important is dumping religious control out of the education system - and I demonstrated earlier today a series of issues over the past couple of months that demonstrated the continued stranglehold the Catholic hierarchy maintain over the education system (with the assistance of the political establishment in this country).
Any examples of socialist indoctrination producing positive results amongst the people?
 


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Removing superstition is not indoctrinating anyone - in fact it is the removal of indoctrination.
Schools indoctrinate, regardless.

Their sole objective is to produce one thing: well behaved tax payers.

Most of my, and I dare say others, religious tuition was "socialist": equality of man, eradication of poverty, protecting the weak and vulnerable (something you're opposed to).
 

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I am suggesting that it should not be part of a state curriculum - if you want to study religion then go to theology school. It should be replaced with philosophy - indeed most European students are shocked that religion is 'taught' and philosophy isn't a school subject.


Because it is teaching rubbish that is the antithesis of every other subject taught in schools - you are telling students that they should have an inquiring mind and rely on evidence - and then telling them that there is a supernatural being that is all knowing and all powerful looking down on them and will tell them what is right and what is wrong, but there is no evidence and you are not allowed to question anything.
Let them be shocked! Just because everyone else does something doesn't mean we should follow the crowd. I believe education should be inclusive and if there is a sufficient number of students who wish to study religion and there is a teacher present and willing to teach them, then let them be.

When I was in religion class I didn't have the same experience as you seem to have had. I found it to be a good subject to study and enjoyable. I and fellow classmates were allowed to question what were being taught and the teacher encouraged it. Suppose its all in the teaching.
 

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Religion is a LC subject and you can sit an exam - however it shouldn't be and it shouldn't be 'taught' in schools - religion should be replaced by philosophy.
Please mind your manners. Leave it to Catholics to decide how Catholicism is taught in Catholic schools. How heretics teach about Catholicism in non-Catholic schools is no business of any Catholic.
 

Glenshane4

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And we still subsidise them and allow them to interfere in our schools.
If you are not a Catholic, the possessive adjective "our" is not an appropriate word for YOU to use about the property of the Catholic Church. When you and other anti-Catholics establish your own schools, you will then be able to decide that your schools shall not promote Catholicism. Please respect private property and the right of Catholics to be Catholics.
 
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Glenshane4

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The fact that religion is so culturally ingrained in some parents does not mean that the state has to play a role is sustaining these fantasies - if parents want to indoctrinate their children then they can do it in church or at home - the state should have zero role in doing anything other than providing a comprehensive education for children.
Please stop interfering in what goes on in Catholic schools. If you do not like Catholic schools, keep your children out of them.
 

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Interesting....very Interesting :cool:

Enrolment in Catholic schools continues to increase

The number of children attending Catholic primary schools here continues to grow, and has grown more strongly this year compared to any other sector, according to the latest Department of Education enrolment data.
An additional almost 2,500 school places were created in Catholic schools throughout the country this year compared to last.

https://www.rte.ie/news/2018/0226/943799-catholic-school-enrolment-increases/

Yet we are told the Catholic Religion is dying here....
 

Lúidín

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The number of children attending Catholic primary schools here continues to grow
Because there is no choice. Nearly all schools are 'Catholic schools'. When the Church controlled the hospitals, the number of Catholic patients also grew in keeping with the population.
 

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Because there is no choice. Nearly all schools are 'Catholic schools'. When the Church controlled the hospitals, the number of Catholic patients also grew in keeping with the population.
It is long past time for you and other anti-Catholics to establish your own schools and, by so doing, provide people with an alternative to Catholic schools.
 


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