Rent a quote lefty from NUIG suggests abolishing council rent -Gerry Adam's helper?

cyberianpan

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A cursory review of this dude shows him to be a lawyer, with a stench of Marx
Law - NUI Galway

Council tenants owe
A leading expert on housing policy says it may now be time to provide rent-free social housing in certain areas.

Dr Padraic Kenna of NUI Galway said a pilot scheme would be useful in evaluating the idea.

There is an argument to say we should have zero rents in local authorities because the cost of implementing and the cost of collecting them and court fees is quite significant,” he said.

“It wouldn’t be popular because we tend to feel people should pay something but the economics of it make sense.
there is an argument to say...then he identifies with it... economics ? He is a lawyer

And see, Uncle Gerry's people are the problem
arrears last year ran from as low as 3.6% of rent payable in the case of Co Laois to 28% in the case of Co Louth.
So ...how do the Irish media determine who the experts are ? Let alone the
expert ?

cyp
 


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The true price of free social housing would be the disincentive for working people to continue working and keeping the show on the road.
 

Morgellons

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The true price of free social housing would be the disincentive for working people to continue working and keeping the show on the road.
Yes, because there's nothing like the threat of homelessness for getting the best out of the people.
 

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The true price of free social housing would be the disincentive for working people to continue working and keeping the show on the road.
Doesn't seem to phase them when MNCs get away scot free without paying practically any taxes. All this while the hard-pressed workers' taxes are spent coaxing those same MNCs here, and subsidising them while they're here too.
 

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Rents are really low to start with ranging around €25-80 depending on income. If you then were to come along and make it zero for those on social welfare it would just add to the disincentives to work.
 

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CyP starts another thread.
 

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They should pay people to stay in social housing.

Anything else is a total rip-off by right wing extremists.
 

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Took some thinking to find an abstract idea that could be sort of but not really linked to Gerry Adams though. Have to admire the effort but not the reasoning.
 

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Millions owed by tenants,costs a lot to recover it,some say gave them houses and everything free, medical cards, viagra, large families,inflated children's allowance, free IPhones, free TC flat screens,lie in bed all day, shag away big time.
 

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Yes, because there's nothing like the threat of homelessness for getting the best out of the people.
it actually is one of the best times to get the best out of yourself. When I was homeless in Australia for a very brief time, it gave the urgency to try sort my life out. I'm still a quaking mess of a human but tough times are great when you learn how to embrace them.
 

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A cursory review of this dude shows him to be a lawyer, with a stench of Marx
Law - NUI Galway

Council tenants owe


there is an argument to say...then he identifies with it... economics ? He is a lawyer

And see, Uncle Gerry's people are the problem


So ...how do the Irish media determine who the experts are ? Let alone the expert ?

cyp
The new legislation means rents can be docked from dole or wages. No need for expensive court cases. Ridiculous idea.
 

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Rents are really low to start with ranging around €25-80 depending on income. If you then were to come along and make it zero for those on social welfare it would just add to the disincentives to work.
Why not cut dole and other SW supports by that amount. Like road tax, collecting these paltry rents seems pointless when there is an easier deduction one could make.

And is that €25/ week.....?

We need to reflect the full state support package costs in these cases. Might shut up the Can't pay /won't pay brigade.
 

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The minds of university lecturers, for the most part, a place where the realities don't dare tread.

A case in point, Merc of this parish.
No more needs saying.
 

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And is that €25/ week.....?
Yeah €25-80/week. Every local authority has it own differential rent scheme depending on income but that would be the rough band. To cut the dole etc by a 'similar amount' though only affects those on the dole - a lot of households in social housing are working although primarily in the lower income brackets. But I bet this 'free rent' proposal was not made with any intention of taking it off the dole at the other end.
 

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Yeah €25-80/week. Every local authority has it own differential rent scheme depending on income but that would be the rough band. To cut the dole etc by a 'similar amount' though only affects those on the dole - a lot of households in social housing are working although primarily in the lower income brackets. But I bet this 'free rent' proposal was not made with any intention of taking it off the dole at the other end.
That is a massive extra contribution.

Say a mid point of 60 per week. Annual rent is then about E3,120. Versus a rent of 1,500 a month. Or E18,000 a year.

So there is 15k a year after tax cash benefit.

That needs to be discussed in conversations on low income families. And middle income.

But this is ignored lest we actually get an honest conversation on what the state should do in housing provision.

The 4% rent cap has actually shafted a lot of decent landlords who pegged their rents to rent allowance. Slightly off topic, but many of our accidental landlords are also subsidising the state provision of housing.

Lots of perverse consequences which don't get discussed.
 

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A cursory review of this dude shows him to be a lawyer, with a stench of Marx
Law - NUI Galway

Council tenants owe


there is an argument to say...then he identifies with it... economics ? He is a lawyer

And see, Uncle Gerry's people are the problem


So ...how do the Irish media determine who the experts are ? Let alone the expert ?

cyp
Only way you could have made this OP an even bigger heap of dung would be to use the proper p.ie spelling of his name....Jarry...Jorry also would suffice....
You are a truly tiresome weirdo....
 

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Only way you could have made this OP an even bigger heap of dung would be to use the proper p.ie spelling of his name....Jarry...Jorry also would suffice....
You are a truly tiresome weirdo....
That the greatest delinquency is in the stomping ground of your jack booted Thug-in-Chief is undeniable...hence your (lame) attempt at deflection.

You're mendacious... probably a good survival strategy given your vile bloodlust

cyp
 

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A cursory review of this dude shows him to be a lawyer, with a stench of Marx
Law - NUI Galway

Council tenants owe


there is an argument to say...then he identifies with it... economics ? He is a lawyer

And see, Uncle Gerry's people are the problem


So ...how do the Irish media determine who the experts are ? Let alone the expert ?

cyp
so says the "Darkie" Cyp
 


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