Repeal the 8th (Second Thread)


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You talk about "your young" - really. :rolleyes: Sounds like a nest of baby birds to me. I might say "my offspring" or similar and even then I'd be joking.


In countries where enforced pregnancy is a thing, yes.

Luckily that doesn't apply to Ireland any more.




Nothing new in what I've just said, and I don't doubt you will hasten to misinterpret it as you have done before.

But I've always said that enforced pregnancy is a breach of a woman's human rights. That's because it leads to people like you proposing that raped teenagers may be restrained against their will to force them to continue a pregnancy.

That you don't even realize just how revolting that idea is to normal people merely indicates how far removed your worldview is from that of normal people.
If you view “enforced pregnancy” as a breach of human rights then you must support abortion without restriction in regard to term limit or reason.
 

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You talk about "your young" - really. :rolleyes: Sounds like a nest of baby birds to me. I might say "my offspring" or similar and even then I'd be joking.


In countries where enforced pregnancy is a thing, yes.

Luckily that doesn't apply to Ireland any more.




Nothing new in what I've just said, and I don't doubt you will hasten to misinterpret it as you have done before.

But I've always said that enforced pregnancy is a breach of a woman's human rights. That's because it leads to people like you proposing that raped teenagers may be restrained against their will to force them to continue a pregnancy.

That you don't even realize just how revolting that idea is to normal people merely indicates how far removed your worldview is from that of normal people.
If you view “enforced pregnancy” as a breach of human rights then you must support abortion without restriction in regard to term limit or reason.
Thanks for being you. Don't ever change. :lol:
 

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We're getting back into antichoice cray cray now! Most abortions happen in the first trimester. The later ones are down to FFA, not women and girls waiting 30 weeks before deciding they don't want to be pregnant anymore.
 

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We're getting back into antichoice cray cray now! Most abortions happen in the first trimester. The later ones are down to FFA, not women and girls waiting 30 weeks before deciding they don't want to be pregnant anymore.
But the ‘pro-choice/human right not to be pregnant’ view is that the choice should be available for the duration of the pregnancy.
 

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I wouldn't be concerned too much about the O'Taliban. Their days on this issue even around abortion clinics are numbered now.

I note an article in the Guardian today on the 22 of the 26 counties being covered as regards GP referrals on abortion. The GP featured in the article, who is one of the 220 who have signed up openly to the list received a call from another GP who isn't on the public list and handled a request for the abortifacient pill for the aforementioned and their patient.

It'll take a short while for the wariness around the village priest and the creaky O'Taliban in Ballygokandahar to dissipate and then the O'Taliban can be left to chew on their pap in the corner, having lost their grip with contraception, divorce, gay marriage and abortion- their Four Horsemen of de-de-de 'Pocalypse.
 
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But the ‘pro-choice/human right not to be pregnant’ view is that the choice should be available for the duration of the pregnancy.
Yep. It's a woman hating, antichoice myth that women wait for months into a pregnancy before they choose to end it.
 

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Yep. It's a woman hating, antichoice myth that women wait for months into a pregnancy before they choose to end it.
You still don’t seem to understand. You cannot proclaim your support for unrestricted choice, and then argue in your defense ‘sure it’ll never happen’.
 

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"SAME-SEX COUPLES will be able to use the label ‘parent’ on birth certificates of their children under new legislation approved by government.

"Social Protection Minister Regina Doherty said the changes will resolve a number of difficulties in the registration of donor assisted births and will be brought forward as a priority."...more

Same-sex couples will be able to use ‘parent’ on birth certificates under new law
Off-topic, though probably from the same agenda, an agenda that ignores or denies reality!
 

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I pray for the women who do such a thing and I hope that God heals the very deep wounds that must come with the knowledge that one has killed one's own child for the sake of convenience.

As for those who profit from it- the doctors, the traders in body parts, the clinics- they are the Eichmanns and Mengeles of this generation. The most charitable I can be is to hope that they someday realize how wrong they are and how much evil they are doing.
I'm still confused about why the govt insist on calling it "abortion care" or "women's health care".

Abortion service uneven as unrest grows on frontline - Independent.ie

where is the care? Where is the rush to end unborn life?

This is about ideology, the ideology of aborting an unborn child.
 

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Off-topic, though probably from the same agenda, an agenda that ignores or denies reality!
They have started killing fellow human beings in several hospitals. This is the new sad reality.
 

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I'm still confused about why the govt insist on calling it "abortion care" or "women's health care".

Abortion service uneven as unrest grows on frontline - Independent.ie

where is the care? Where is the rush to end unborn life?

This is about ideology, the ideology of aborting an unborn child.
Isn't it obvious? Why did the Nazis refer to Jews as subhuman? In Rwanda, why did the Hutus refer to Tutsis as cockroaches?

Answer: Because it makes it easier to kill a person if you dehumanise them.

It's not very complicated.
 

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So no law against murder then?
Im talking about matters concerning ones own body. A foetus is growing inside a body, and therefore concerns the mothers body. The courts have already held that pre birth rights do not equal post birth rights.
 

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You still don’t seem to understand. You cannot proclaim your support for unrestricted choice, and then argue in your defense ‘sure it’ll never happen’.
Because it doesn't. It's a myth perpetuated by people who hate women.
 

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So why would anyone want unrestricted choice, as Petaljam does? Is she just being ideological or what?
You'd have to ask her. We're not a hive mind.
 
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