Reply from BAI after RTE Compliant

Social Conscience

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I received the standard BAI reply today following my email complaint on Monday last after the actions of the so called state broadcaster on the 'Government Press Conference 21/11/10'

One line really angers me. It states ‘RTE has twenty-one days to forward a reply, if it so wishes

My question is why have we got a so called ‘authority’ in place if they cannot force a reply after a genuine compliant?
 


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I received the standard BAI reply today following my email complaint on Monday last after the actions of the so called state broadcaster on the 'Government Press Conference 21/11/10'

One line really angers me. It states ‘RTE has twenty-one days to forward a reply, if it so wishes

My question is why have we got a so called ‘authority’ in place if they cannot force a reply after a genuine compliant?
Bob Collins, who will assume the role of Chairperson; currently Chairman of the Equality Commission in Northern Ireland, Chair of Connect-World and former DG of RTÉ
 

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you're obviously new to this,this is ireland, where the deck is always stacked against the ordinary man.Watchdogs in ireland are jobs for the politically connected, they are not meant to actually do anything.

I once complained about a food establishment "thank you for your call,unfortunately we cannot tell you the outcome of our investigations" i also complained about the water quality, council arrived took a sample, unfortunately we can't tell you the results, if you don't hear from us again you can assume it's ok !.

WHAT A COUNTRY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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Don't know the full text obviously, but isn't it that RTE have 21 days to respond to the complaint to the BAI? If they don't reply, then the BAI can make the judgement just on the complainant's version of events.

I wouldn't have a whole lot of faith in the BAI, but at least wait until they make a judgement before starting the conspiracy theories...
 

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Bob Collins, who will assume the role of Chairperson; currently Chairman of the Equality Commission in Northern Ireland, Chair of Connect-World and former DG of RTÉ
A man appointed by the great Eamonn Ryan - say no more


you're obviously new to this,this is ireland, where the deck is always stacked against the ordinary man.Watchdogs in ireland are jobs for the politically connected, they are not meant to actually do anything.

WHAT A COUNTRY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Not new to this at all but perhaps the fact I work in a company where accountability is a cornerstone has got the better of me this morning.

What a country is right. :cry:
 

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Don't know the full text obviously, but isn't it that RTE have 21 days to respond to the complaint to the BAI? If they don't reply, then the BAI can make the judgement just on the complainant's version of events.

I wouldn't have a whole lot of faith in the BAI, but at least wait until they make a judgement before starting the conspiracy theories...
Dear Mr Social Conscience,

In accordance with the Broadcasting Authority of Ireland (“BAI”) rules of procedure, I have forwarded a copy of your complaint regarding 'Government Press Conference 21/11/10' to RTE for consideration.

RTE has twenty-one days to forward a reply, if it so wishes.

Please note all complaints considered by the BAI, whether upheld or rejected, including the complainant’s name only, are made available, unless the BAI considers it inappropriate to do so. If you have any objection to this compliant being printed and/or aired, please submit in detail the grounds of your objections for consideration by the BAI. I would ask that you do so within thirty days of receipt of this letter.#

I trust you find this in order.

Yours Sincerely,

BAI Clerical Officer
 

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I don't see the issue. If they don't respond, the BAI consider the complaint on what you (and others) have raised.
 

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I don't see the issue. If they don't respond, the BAI consider the complaint on what you (and others) have raised.
Is your reading of that letter that, if RTE don't issue a reply then the BAI will come back to me and others with a follow up letter?
 

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Response from RTE regarding press conference

Hey people,
In case anyone is interested, here is the reply i got from RTE yesterday

RTÉ ran comprehensive coverage of the events surrounding the Cabinet meeting of Sunday 21st November.The in-depth interview with the Minister for Finance on This Week on RTÉ Radio 1, providing confirmation that Ireland would be seeking a financial rescue package, set the afternoon news agenda. Detailed analysis of the story was provided on the Six One News which had an average audience of 636,000 and there was live coverage on RTÉ One of the Government press conference between 8.30 and 9.00pm. At 9.00pm we switched to an extended edition of the Nine O’Clock News and at 10.30pm there was an extended edition of The Week in Politics. Our online news service on rte.ie ran the full Government press conference which continued for just three minutes after we finished coverage on TV.

There has been a suggestion that we in some way censored Vincent Browne’s questioning of the Taoiseach for reasons of commercial rivalry with TV3. This is far from being the case. Our news special ran for half an hour and contained a number of questions from various journalists including our own, some international broadcasters and from TV3 both Ursula Halligan and Vincent Browne whose first four questions were broadcast before we returned briefly to studio for analysis and then went to the extended Nine O’Clock News. The News Special attracted an average audience of 364,000 compared to 35,000 for Sky News’ coverage of the same event.

RTÉ One, being a mixed channel and not a specialist News channel, has to serve audience needs other than News. That said, on a night of intense national drama, it was imperative that the Nine O’Clock news went to air on time for the huge audience (average 769,000) who switched to us to find out the latest developments. To mark the seriousness of the day’s events, The Week in Politics was brought forward to 10.30 pm, broadcast live and extended, and received an average audience figure of 359,000.

RTÉ News is satisfied that it covered yesterday’s events fully and appropriately.

Kind Regards,

RTÉ Information
 

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Is your reading of that letter that, if RTE don't issue a reply then the BAI will come back to me and others with a follow up letter?
My interpretation of the process is...
1) You make the complaint to the BAI.
2) The BAI write to the broadcaster for their views/ defence
3) After 21 days, whether they get the broadcasters views or not, they make a judgement and issue their decision.

I might be wrong in the process, but I can't see the letter you got from the BAI being the end of the matter if RTE don't reply.
 

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This is what RTE emailed me after I sent a complaint:

Dear {me},

RTÉ ran comprehensive coverage of the events surrounding the Cabinet meeting of Sunday 21st November.The in-depth interview with the Minister for Finance on This Week on RTÉ Radio 1, providing confirmation that Ireland would be seeking a financial rescue package, set the afternoon news agenda. Detailed analysis of the story was provided on the Six One News which had an average audience of 636,000 and there was live coverage on RTÉ One of the Government press conference between 8.30 and 9.00pm. At 9.00pm we switched to an extended edition of the Nine O’Clock News and at 10.30pm there was an extended edition of The Week in Politics. Our online news service on rte.ie ran the full Government press conference which continued for just three minutes after we finished coverage on TV.

There has been a suggestion that we in some way censored Vincent Browne’s questioning of the Taoiseach for reasons of commercial rivalry with TV3. This is far from being the case. Our news special ran for half an hour and contained a number of questions from various journalists including our own, some international broadcasters and from TV3 both Ursula Halligan and Vincent Browne whose first four questions were broadcast before we returned briefly to studio for analysis and then went to the extended Nine O’Clock News. The News Special attracted an average audience of 364,000 compared to 35,000 for Sky News’ coverage of the same event.

RTÉ One, being a mixed channel and not a specialist News channel, has to serve audience needs other than News. That said, on a night of intense national drama, it was imperative that the Nine O’Clock news went to air on time for the huge audience (average 769,000) who switched to us to find out the latest developments. To mark the seriousness of the day’s events, The Week in Politics was brought forward to 10.30 pm, broadcast live and extended, and received an average audience figure of 359,000.

RTÉ News is satisfied that it covered Sunday's events fully and appropriately.

Kind Regards,

RTÉ Information Team

Told them I was also going to make a complaint to the BAI. Will still do so. Even if the BAI do feck all about it. Having a regulator who can't compel anything is ridiculous.
 

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An Gae Bolga - I guess that is what I will be getting so. Thanks for that.

It was the expected BS I knew would be given from RTE.
 

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An Gae Bolga - I guess that is what I will be getting so. Thanks for that.
No, that's what the BAI will get, and then decide is it valid or not and whether to uphold the complaint or not.

And btw, as I said earlier I wouldn't have a whole lot of faith in the BAI, so I'd expect them to not uphold the complaint.
 

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I received the standard BAI reply today following my email complaint on Monday last after the actions of the so called state broadcaster on the 'Government Press Conference 21/11/10'

One line really angers me. It states ‘RTE has twenty-one days to forward a reply, if it so wishes

My question is why have we got a so called ‘authority’ in place if they cannot force a reply after a genuine compliant?
because RTE is pro-government and pro-Fianna Fail, if you're complaint is against their pro views, they won't do anything.
 


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