Republicans sued over breaking of consent decree forbidding illegal voter intimidation (Trump)

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BREAKING: Dems File Federal Complaint Accusing GOP Of Helping Donald Trump Intimidate Minority Voters

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The DNC filed a motion in federal court on Wednesday which says that the RNC, through Donald Trump’s own statements, has violated a longstanding consent decree that prohibits Republicans from engaging in “ballot security” measures which could intimidate minorities.

The DNC lawyers are asking for a judge to issue a court order preventing the voter intimidation, and also hold the RNC in contempt of court for failing to abide by the the consent decree. The decree came about in 1981, after Republican officials allegedly engaged in intimidation tactics against minority voters in the name of “ballot security.”

The decree barred the RNC from engaging in various polling-related activities. Well, the DNC says the Republicans are back at it. In recent days, the RNC has tried to distance themselves from many of these vigilante tactics, the DNC lawyers say there is now “ample evidence that Trump has enjoyed the direct and tacit support of the RNC in its ‘ballot security’ endeavors.”

The DNC’s motion is also asking the court to enforce the consent decree with sanctions. The consent decree was expected to expire in 2017. However, the DNC has asked for an 8 year extension based upon Trump and the RNC’s recent actions.
Source: BREAKING: Dems File Federal Complaint Accusing GOP Of Helping Donald Trump Intimidate Minority Voters - Joe.My.God.


My comment:

1) the Rnc are very unhappy as the consent decree was due to expire next year and may now be extended to 2025

2) due to the election expect this to be judged very quickly!!
 
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Case dismissed. The majority want nothing to do with Orange Jesus and hence are not a 'minority' in any way and cannot be intimidated. They can't sue for bothering a minority who are the majority.

Be more useful to sue Hannitys parents for procreating. :mad:
 

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Case dismissed. The majority want nothing to do with Orange Jesus and hence are not a 'minority' in any way and cannot be intimidated. They can't sue for bothering a minority who are the majority.

Be more useful to sue Hannitys parents for procreating. :mad:
Do you read my OP? No,I thought not, otherwise you wouldn't be spouting such crap

1) the Republican Party agreed to a legally binding consent decree forbidding them from this kind of activity when they were found quilty for similar attempts in the 1980s

2) whether the Republican Party and Trump campaign want to acknowledge it they are connected (even if that connection is not particularly cordial at the moment)

3) the democrats have said they have ample evidence that Trump has enjoyed the direct and tacit support of the RNC in its ‘ballot security’ endeavors

The case will not be dismissed so easily and will very probably go to the Supreme Court of the United States before Election Day!
 
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Sorry, who are they accused of intimidating and what is accusation of the method being used?
 

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Sorry, who are they accused of intimidating and what is accusation of the method being used?
I suggest you watch this video of Rachel Maddow, she explains the details behind the Consent decree the republicans have now been accused of breaking and how it affects this election!

[video=youtube;6pMWBxxsyOc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pMWBxxsyOc[/video]
 
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They weren't so concerned about the New Black Panthers standing outside polling stations in Philadelphia in 2012.

Poll watchers are part of the US system. There is voter fraud. Voter ID laws are reasonable especially after the rigged Democratic Nevada primary.
 

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I suggest you watch this video of Rachel Maddow, she explains the details behind the Consent decree the republicans have now been accused of breaking and how it affects this election!

[video=youtube;6pMWBxxsyOc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pMWBxxsyOc[/video]
Thank you. That is interesting.
I won't read too much into the clips with Trump talking about Chicago, St Louis etc nut it does look like he's planting the seed.
 

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They weren't so concerned about the New Black Panthers standing outside polling stations in Philadelphia in 2012.

Poll watchers are part of the US system. There is voter fraud. Voter ID laws are reasonable especially after the rigged Democratic Nevada primary.
Did the Dems not sue the Panthers?
 

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They weren't so concerned about the New Black Panthers standing outside polling stations in Philadelphia in 2012.

Poll watchers are part of the US system. There is voter fraud. Voter ID laws are reasonable especially after the rigged Democratic Nevada primary.
1) that story was a total fraud there was 3 guys outside 1 polling station and fox blew it up out of all proportions

2) the new black panthers aren't under an agreed legal consent decree forbidding them from trying to do voter intimidation tactics unlike the republicans

3) Accredited poll watchers are part of the system not vigilante thugs sent to intimidate people into not voting which is what trump want his people to be

4) the idea that there is large scale voter fraud is a myth, there have been some but we're talking tiny tiny amounts, between 2000 and 2010 there were 649 million votes cast in general elections and 13 cases of in-person voter impersonation convictions.

5) the claim that the Democratic Nevada primary was rigged has been debunked see: Allegations of fraud and misconduct at Nevada Democratic convention unfounded | PolitiFact Nevada
 

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1) that story was a total fraud there was 3 guys outside 1 polling station and fox blew it up out of all proportions

2) the new black panthers arnt under an agreed legal consent decre forbidding them from trying to do voter intimidation tactics unlike the republicans

3) Accredited poll watchers are part of the system not vigilante thugs sent to intimidate people into not voting which is what trump want his people to be

4) the idea that there is large scale voter fraud is a myth, there have been some but we're talking tiny tiny amounts, between 2000 and 2010 there were 649 million votes cast in general elections and 13 cases of in-person voter impersonation convictions.

5) the claim that the Democratic Nevada primary was rigged has been debunked see: Allegations of fraud and misconduct at Nevada Democratic convention unfounded | PolitiFact Nevada
Yes, this in a one direct vote would make fraud pointless. However, it's not a one direct vote system. Which makes fraud more 'workable'. In saying that, I don't believe there is fraud. It would be easier to win the election within the rules than outside the rules.
 

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New Black Panthers standing outside polling stations in Philadelphia in 2012. Did the same in 2008. In May 2010, J. Christian Adams, resigned his post in the Department of Justice in protest over the Obama administration's perceived mishandling of the 2008-related case.

His co-worker Christopher Coates was refused permission by the Obama admin to testify about the case, but gave testimony to the US Civil Rights Commission anyway. This is what he said:

wikipedia said:
In his testimony before the Civil Rights Commission, Adams stated that his accusations could be corroborated by Christopher Coates,[9] the former head of the voting section of the Department of Justice's Civil Rights Division who had led the original investigation of the New Black Panther Party.[43] The Department refused to allow Coates to testify.[9] In September 2010, Coates was granted whistleblower protection and testified before the Civil Rights Commission in defiance of his supervisors' instructions.[44]
Coates' testimony included accusations similar to those made by Adams, stating, "I had people who told me point-blank that [they] didn't come to the voting rights section to sue African American people."[44] He compared the New Black Panther case to an earlier case from 2006, in which Department of Justice attorneys expressed anger at having to investigate Ike Brown, a black Democratic politician in Noxubee County, Mississippi accused of discriminating against white voters. Coates testified that the Justice Department's administration's decision to drop the Black Panther Case "was intended to send a direct message to people inside and outside the civil rights division. That message is that the filing of voting cases like the Ike Brown and the NBPP cases would not continue in the Obama administration."[45] Coates testified that one of his superiors appointed by the Obama Administration had prohibited him from asking job applicants if they would enforce the voting laws in a race-neutral manner.[46] Attorney General Holder denied these claims, stating "The notion that we are enforcing any Civil Rights laws, voting or other, on the basis of race, ethnicity, or gender is simply false."[45][47]
Some civil rights officials in the Obama Administration expressed the view that Voting Rights Act was specifically intended to correct historic injustices against minorities.[8] The Philadelphia Inquirer and the Washington Post pointed out that although the Department of Justice dismissed Adams' testimony as that of a partisan hired during the Bush Administration, Coates is of a different pedigree and cannot be ignored as easily. Coates worked for the American Civil Liberties Union for nearly 20 years, receiving the Thurgood Marshall Decade Award from the Georgia NAACP in 1991,[43] and was hired by the Justice Department during the Clinton Administration in 1996.[44]
[video=youtube;8PRYJqfcEe0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PRYJqfcEe0[/video]
 
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New Black Panthers standing outside polling stations in Philadelphia in 2012. Did the same in 2008. In May 2010, J. Christian Adams, resigned his post in the Department of Justice in protest over the Obama administration's perceived mishandling of the 2008-related case.
Seems USER1234 summed it up alright
 

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They weren't so concerned about the New Black Panthers standing outside polling stations in Philadelphia in 2012.

Poll watchers are part of the US system. There is voter fraud. Voter ID laws are reasonable especially after the rigged Democratic Nevada primary.
Not like Trump has barked...not even close. What he's been calling for is unlawful, and he named-dropped the RNC as colluding with him in his intentions, hence the hubbub.

I've been an official poll official worker and/or local judge of elections in Pennsylvania for the past ten years and will be doing so this election again so I'll offer some POVs from personal experience. I get assigned by my county to help operate local polling stations that may be understaffed given volume and/or have new staff in need of help.

Each major party (GOP and Dems) are permitted to have assigned poll watchers in the polling precinct to observe the election in the precinct. They are pre-approved and given official authority as such, given badges to show their status, etc. They are allowed to observe the election in the precinct. They are given official voter lists for the precinct. They can protest of something or someone they deem suspicious. However, they are not permitted to interfere with the election. If they protest a voter, the vote becomes a provisional ballot that can be litigated, but they must also pay a fee and are held responsible for any 'bad calls' insofar as costs of litigation, penalties for frivolous objections, etc. That stops any mischief aimed at illegitimate suppression of votes. They basically look for 'sure things', which in my experience doesn't really happen worth noting and certainly not making any difference.

Ballots have several means of logging and cross checking to assure proper voters and votes cast. Both parties are also represented in the officials who perform the elections, including official inspectors from both parties in each precinct that sign off under oath at beginning to end that it was performed properly.

There is no in-person voter fraud worth anything of note and certainly none that would alter an outcome. None. It is a myth. That has been shown to be so repeatedly outside the mischief maker allegations and conspiracy theory fever swamps. Trump knows that, and what he is doing is malicious and unlawful.

The New Black Panther thing was well overstated and overcooked for mischievous purposes, although improper. However, there were cases of some urban union goons that came close to doing what's prohibited in Philadelphia awhile ago. Again, given things like that and the RNC decree, much of that has evaporated because it's been declared illegal and they can be routed from the areas, even arrested.

I had a problem with some left wing fever swamp types back in 2006 showing up to 'monitor' and film the voting process. They refused to accept that Bush got re-elected in 2004, blaming electronic voting machines being rigged by the GOP. It was called the 'Diebold conspiracy.' I had them warned not to attempt to enter and film voters inside the precinct itself and to remain 10 feet away from the polling precinct, which is the law when not voting, as well as not to harass anyone outside. They obeyed when they knew they could be arrested for causing disruptions or intimidations.

Trump is a major a-hole for putting the nation through yet another malicious bogus conspiracy theory, and it's especially unfair to people who perform this thankless yet necessary task of operating the elections themselves, which is basically done on a volunteer basis by private senses of civic duty. The workers don't deserve this extra BS on election day or any harassment or danger afterwards based on this crap.
 

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New Black Panthers standing outside polling stations in Philadelphia in 2012. Did the same in 2008. In May 2010, J. Christian Adams, resigned his post in the Department of Justice in protest over the Obama administration's perceived mishandling of the case.

[video=youtube;8PRYJqfcEe0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PRYJqfcEe0[/video]

Nice attempt to try to twist away from the actual subject of this thread dame Edna but again

1) that story was a total fraud there was 3 guys outside 1 polling station and fox blew it up out of all proportions

2) the new black panthers aren't under an agreed legal consent decree forbidding them from trying to do voter intimidation tactics unlike the republicans

3) Accredited poll watchers are part of the system not vigilante thugs sent to intimidate people into not voting which is what trump want his people to be

4) the idea that there is large scale voter fraud is a myth, there have been some but we're talking tiny tiny amounts, between 2000 and 2010 there were 649 million votes cast in general elections and 13 cases of in-person voter impersonation convictions.
 

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Nice attempt to try to twist away from the actual subject of this thread dame Edna but again

1) that story was a total fraud there was 3 guys outside 1 polling station and fox blew it up out of all proportions

2) the new black panthers aren't under an agreed legal consent decree forbidding them from trying to do voter intimidation tactics unlike the republicans


Quote Originally Posted by Dame_Enda View Post
They weren't so concerned about the New Black Panthers standing outside polling stations in Philadelphia in 2012.

Poll watchers are part of the US system. There is voter fraud. Voter ID laws are reasonable especially after the rigged Democratic Nevada primary.
1) that story was a total fraud there was 3 guys outside 1 polling station and fox blew it up out of all proportions

2) the new black panthers aren't under an agreed legal consent decree forbidding them from trying to do voter intimidation tactics unlike the republicans

3) Accredited poll watchers are part of the system not vigilante thugs sent to intimidate people into not voting which is what trump want his people to be

4) the idea that there is large scale voter fraud is a myth, there have been some but we're talking tiny tiny amounts, between 2000 and 2010 there were 649 million votes cast in general elections and 13 cases of in-person voter impersonation convictions.
Christopher Coates, who worked in the DOJ, has backed up that there was a policy in the Obama admin at ignoring voter intimidation against White voters. He was originally refused the right to testify but the US Civil Rights Commission gave him whistleblower protection. Sounds like an Obama cover up.
 

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Christopher Coates, who worked in the DOJ, has backed up that there was a policy in the Obama admin at ignoring voter intimidation against White voters. He was originally refused the right to testify but the US Civil Rights Commission gave him whistleblower protection. Sounds like an Obama cover up.
Sounds like you need to make yourself a tinfoil hat and stop trolling this thread with irrelevant crap
 


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