Return of bonus points for honours maths

anewbeginning

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About time too...It was a major mistake to get rid of them...Honours maths is one of the most difficult subjects, probably the most difficult. It's also vital to our high tech economy, and the multinationals like to see a lot of people doing honours maths.

I'd personally also like to see bonus points for physics and chemistry as well since these are also valuable subjects to our export lead economy.

The more students that can be encouraged into these subjects the better.

Must of our FDI in the next number of years will be related to these subjects.

Our entire secondary school curriculuam needs modernising. It's time for secondary school students to learn the basics of comuter programming, and also entrepreneurship.
 


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As someone who got honours in Honours maths, I disagree with the extra point. More than anything, they need to change the way that it is taught
 

galleyslave

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now all we need are bonus points for a decent level of english and we might be doing something right. Maths is important enough to justify the bonus, but so is english
 

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As someone who got honours in Honours maths, I disagree with the extra point. More than anything, they need to change the way that it is taught
the problem is the points system but that's not going to change so giving an incentive to study honours maths is probably the best that can be done.
 

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Good move. Needed to be done.
 

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now all we need are bonus points for a decent level of english and we might be doing something right. Maths is important enough to justify the bonus, but so is english
Most students study English, the incentive is intended to increase the numbers studying honours maths
 

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What happens say for someone who is doing a course like History and Politics, do they receive extra points for doing honours maths, if so it's unfair.
 

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Force everyone to complete their leaving cert.

What good are semi illiterate block layers to us now, who left school at Junior/Inter Cert. They are virtually unemployable, as are the plumbers, electricians, etc who left at the same age. They will be heavily dependent on social welfare for years to come.

Force everyone to complete leaving cert and to have a rounded education.

The day of staying in one job for life appears to be over, not that it was ever true. The block layer must be able to turn their hand to something else, if need be.
 

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Why not apply the bonus points only to courses related to mathematics, so as not to disadvantage those in the humanities?
 

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About time too...It was a major mistake to get rid of them...Honours maths is one of the most difficult subjects, probably the most difficult. It's also vital to our high tech economy, and the multinationals like to see a lot of people doing honours maths.

I'd personally also like to see bonus points for physics and chemistry as well since these are also valuable subjects to our export lead economy.

The more students that can be encouraged into these subjects the better.

Must of our FDI in the next number of years will be related to these subjects.

Our entire secondary school curriculuam needs modernising. It's time for secondary school students to learn the basics of comuter programming, and also entrepreneurship.

Yes, Irish and Maths should have bonus points.
 

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This is a bad idea. Maths is not as hard as people seem to think, IMO. All that is required is being able to actually think and analyse problems rather than just learn off textbooks of information and regurgitate on demand. If students were taught to do this better, and if more effort was made to change the perception of maths as impossibly hard, then there would be a lot more uptake. A very small minority of HL maths students actually fail; the perception is worse than the reality.

There is no reason to award bonus points for HL maths, and the same goes for the sciences.
 

splashy

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Force everyone to complete their leaving cert.

What good are semi illiterate block layers to us now, who left school at Junior/Inter Cert. They are virtually unemployable, as are the plumbers, electricians, etc who left at the same age. They will be heavily dependent on social welfare for years to come.

Force everyone to complete leaving cert and to have a rounded education.

The day of staying in one job for life appears to be over, not that it was ever true. The block layer must be able to turn their hand to something else, if need be.
I assumed that the ability to leave school at the age of 16 was not solely to do with education, but rather to do with emancipatory rights given to citizens upon reaching that age. Am I incorrect?
 

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Why not apply the bonus points only to courses related to mathematics, so as not to disadvantage those in the humanities?
The intention is to increase the numbers taking the subject at Leaving cert level, courses requiring higher level maths already state that need.
 

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I don't agree with it. It's only trying to paper over the fact that the subjects are very uneven. The workload required varies enormously and the grades given out vary greatly. The subjects should be of the same standard, there shouldn't be easy and hard ones.
 

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Yes, Irish and Maths should have bonus points.
When the Grant scheme was introduced, both Irish & maths counted as 2 subjects - 4 Cs were needed for the grant but you could only use one of the 2.
 

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The intention is to increase the numbers taking the subject at Leaving cert level, courses requiring higher level maths already state that need.
What good is that if the University course never uses maths such as History? Does a person with a D in OL History and an A in HL Maths get offered a place ahead of an A level History student in OL Maths?
 


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