Roman Catholic Church reiterates ban on very gay priests, what of paedophiles?

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So people with deep seated heterosexual tendencies are fine

Gay men and supporters of
The Vatican has reiterated that men with “deeply rooted homosexual tendencies” should not be admitted to seminaries or become Catholic priests.
Furthermore , what of those with deep rooted paedophilic tendencies ?

Perhaps girl rapists are fine...but not boy rapists ?

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meh, whats the issue?
 

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fair enough...that leaves it open for priests with deeply rooted hetrosexual tendencies.......oh wait...
 

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Roman Catholic Church reiterates ban on very gay priests, what of paedophiles?

For 1500 years the Catholic Church stripped abusing priests of their office and status and handed them over to the state for punishment - until 1904.
It was not until 1904 that Pope Pius X created a commission with the job of unifying the canon law code and tossing out unwanted bits. One of the discarded decrees was the one requiring priests who abused children to be sacked and prosecuted.

In 1922, Pope Pius XI issued Crimen Sollicitationis, which imposed the secret of the holy office. Priests who were meddlesome in the worst ways imaginable were to be kept under wraps.

This was subsequently confirmed in 1962. In 1974 the "secret of the holy office" was rebadged as the "pontifical secret".

It was confirmed again in 2001 by Pope John Paul II. Later Benedict XVI (the German pope) conveniently declared the secrecy provisions extended to allegations of priests having sex with intellectually disabled people.

By 2010, the scandals of paedophile priests were well and truly on the front page. The heat was on, so the Vatican got busy and came up with a harmless amendment to the established code. A restricted form of reporting to the civil authorities was permitted, but only where the civil law required it.
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Protecting paedophile priests goes back to canon law
 

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Child rapists are still good, yeah?
 

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What are deep rooted tendencies?
I was wondering the same thing myself. Do they have something to measure gayness with? Does it mean that someone who swings both ways is allowed in.

And didn't one of the Popes say that gays are ok as long as they don't have sex. Which is also a RCC requirement of straight priests.

If you're a deep rooted hetrosexual would that mean you'd have a problem supressing your sexual desires. Which would mean that the priesthood would not be suitable for you.
 

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Having a position on one element of an issue means you are excluded from having a position on other elements of the same issue?

Who knew?
 

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They're probably just reacting to the stories they've been hearing coming out of Maynooth.
 
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Regardless of how deep-rooted someone's sexual tendencies are, they're still capable of suppressing them and being celibate.

The RCC should be judging people by their actions - not by their nature.

(I can't access that link by the way. Firewall, two article limit etc....)
 

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It's rcc code for really naughty gays:


All men who suffer both deep-seated tendencies and transitory tendencies cannot be Ordained.


https://www.ourladyswarriors.org/question1.htm
But don't they want to be seen as fabulous?

Love this from your link

In an almost bizarre interview with the Washington Post on November 29, Bishop Skylstad further bumfuzzles the multitudes with further false propaganda. And to further obfuscate truth, Bishop Skylstad makes a badly informed statement in his October 20, 2005 diocesan newspaper weekly column: "There are many wonderful and excellent priests in the Church who have a gay orientation, are chaste and celibate, and are very effective ministers of the Gospel. Witch hunts and gay bashing have no place in the Church." How does Bishop Skylstad know so many gay priests and how does he know they are chaste and celibate? Why does Bishop Skylstad want the world to believe the Pope, and those magisterial world Bishops supporting the Pope, is on a witch hunt?
 

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So people with deep seated heterosexual tendencies are fine

Gay men and supporters of


Furthermore , what of those with deep rooted paedophilic tendencies ?

Perhaps girl rapists are fine...but not boy rapists ?

cyp
That's a bit unfair, Cyp.

Please see my post http://www.politics.ie/forum/current-affairs/249962-maynooth-strange-goings-251.html#post10776710

A few days ago the Vatican issued an updated version of Ratio Fundamentalis Institutionis Sacerdotalis.


[video=youtube;eUgUSYPIpFI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUgUSYPIpFI[/video]


Here's how the Vatican sees it - Vatican issues new guidelines for priestly formation

However it's causing a bit of bother in some places.

The gays are saying that the new decree bans them from the seminaries, when in recent years some bishops have been quietly letting them in. LGBT Groups Blast Vatican for Banning Homosexuals from Seminaries
The Vatican seems to intend a general tightening up on the quality of seminary students.

For instance as well as the ban on gays and the supporters of gay lifestyles there's also a ban on alcoholics.

Of course if the Vatican was really serious about clearing out dodgy clerics one of the first things that they'd do is re-write Presbyterorum Ordinis, but there's no sign of that happening.
 
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There was an expert on Radio some time ago.

He said paedophilia is quite rare.

Most abuse of children is committed by opportunists who are not true paedophiles.

There's also the phenomenon of ephebophilia.

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Child rapists are still good, yeah?
No. There's definitely a widespread feeling throughout the RCC that they are bad.

And some bishops are trying to eliminate the problem.

But there's no effective action being taken all across the board.

A crack-down on paedophiles will not work - at best it will apprehend the miscreants, but only after the offence has occurred.

There has to be effective action taken against dodgy clergy right across the board - and sending them to England to assist with the care of the Irish Diaspora there is not effective action.

And a bishop can't leave an alcoholic PP in post and then hold his hands up in amazement when a dead girl is found under the church floorboards.
 

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But don't they want to be seen as fabulous?

Love this from your link
How does Bishop Skylstad know so many gay priests:shock2:........... and how does he know they are chaste and celibate? Why does Bishop Skylstad want the world to believe the Pope, and those magisterial world Bishops supporting the Pope, is on a witch hunt?

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