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Disillusioned democrat

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So while the great and good of the justice system are playing "he said she said" in Dublin Castle it seems we've descended further into lawlessness.

Health and housing are a joke and now, it seems, justice and law and order are joining it.

https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2018/0509/961175-gang-crime/

Basically it would seem that the Gardai and the criminal justice system has pretty much lost the run of the capital city while they worry about more important matters like getting full pensions for ex-Commissioners and hounding honest Gardai who point out corruption in the system.

FG's miraculous recovery - deliver 3rd world services while continuing to charge first world taxes.
 


Roll_On

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I tend to agree but in practice can you imagine the current government actually reformed the HSE and booted out all the FF cronie 'managers'. The confidence supply arrangement would be gone.

A big regret of mine is that FG didn't get a majority government in 2011, they'd have been rootless chopping of labour and FF heads right left and centre. But alas they relied on support from labour which is a mouth piece for well paid public service and union types.

I think Ireland could seriously benefit from a return to majority governments, that way people could vote for what policies they want rather than policy being negotiated between parties after the election is over.
 

Disillusioned democrat

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500 people in the capital at risk from organised crime and you think it's not worth a bit of discussion....bizarre.

Whinging??? FFS FG really have become the dregs if they believe this is acceptable.
 

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Simply disgraceful. Contrast this with the resources wasted on the failed prosecution of peaceful protestors in the Jobstown affair, what a complete and utter lopsided list of priorities.
 

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Simply disgraceful. Contrast this with the resources wasted on the failed prosecution of peaceful protestors in the Jobstown affair, what a complete and utter lopsided list of priorities.
Ah but you have to look at who was deemed the victim scobes wiping each other out meh, never mind they rule their neighbours through fear, violence, damage to property and other acts of intimidation fvck the lot of them.

But you try anything against one of the pillars of the community and the whole weight of the state will be brought against you, garda will purjure themselves by the dozen in direct contradiction of CCTV footage.

They've been known to loose vital evidence phones, laptops etc.

Scumbags by and large.
 

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The half-wits that are supposedly running this country are talking about increasing the population by 1 million people .

They must be on Free samples from the Kinahans ! ! !
 

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500 people in the capital at risk from organised crime and you think it's not worth a bit of discussion....bizarre.

Whinging??? FFS FG really have become the dregs if they believe this is acceptable.
How would you propose resolving this issue?

I didn't see any suggestions in the OP :confused:
 

Wascurito

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500 people in the capital at risk from organised crime and you think it's not worth a bit of discussion....bizarre.

Whinging??? FFS FG really have become the dregs if they believe this is acceptable.
Yeah, it's all the gubberment's fault that murderous gangs want to murder each other.

Your OP is a lowbrow whingefest.
 

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Yeah, it's all the gubberment's fault that murderous gangs want to murder each other.

Your OP is a lowbrow whingefest.
Its the fault of governments past and present that the situation has evolved to this state .

These situations should never be allowed to develop . They are very difficult to undo but were they stamped on as they begun they could have been controlled .

Of course all the Politicians washed their hands of these places and their own lack of action .
 

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Yeah, it's all the gubberment's fault that murderous gangs want to murder each other.

Your OP is a lowbrow whingefest.
Similar going on in London currently... although I saw it claimed to be a racial thing there as most of the gangs are black.

Not sure if that's true or not... the reason it's not being tackled... racial motivation is an easy claim to make.

More likely is that regardless of colour, creed, race, gender etc... that many people are of the view if drugs gangs wish to wipe each other out and as long as innocent people aren't caught in the cross fire... then let them at it...
 

Northsideman

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500 people in the capital at risk from organised crime and you think it's not worth a bit of discussion....bizarre.

Whinging??? FFS FG really have become the dregs if they believe this is acceptable.
Leo's spin team say zoo cos they want this buried, sure in Leo's world all is fine and dandy or didn't you know that.
 

Wascurito

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Its the fault of governments past and present that the situation has evolved to this state .

These situations should never be allowed to develop . They are very difficult to undo but were they stamped on as they begun they could have been controlled .

Of course all the Politicians washed their hands of these places and their own lack of action .
Yes, something must be done.
 

Disillusioned democrat

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Yeah, it's all the gubberment's fault that murderous gangs want to murder each other.

Your OP is a lowbrow whingefest.
Here's a mad thought - the government appoint the Garda Commissioner and the judges and they set the legislative agenda in the Dail.

For the past 3 years all we've heard about AGS has been scandal, whistle-blowers, penalty points, "full confidence", blah, blah, blah....maybe if AGS were less focused on hounding the honest Gardai and more focused on zero tolerance policing of organised crime and if the laws were changed to make it easier to protect people and make effective prosecutions then we wouldn't be in this place.

But similar to other pillars of the governments responsibilities they're failing miserably to deliver.

My suggestion...change the government.
 

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Yes, something must be done.
Our past and present politicians wash their hands of their inactions .

They don’t need any help with their washing off hands . They sold these areas down the river and these communities .
 

Wascurito

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Here's a mad thought - the government appoint the Garda Commissioner and the judges and they set the legislative agenda in the Dail.

For the past 3 years all we've heard about AGS has been scandal, whistle-blowers, penalty points, "full confidence", blah, blah, blah....maybe if AGS were less focused on hounding the honest Gardai and more focused on zero tolerance policing of organised crime and if the laws were changed to make it easier to protect people and make effective prosecutions then we wouldn't be in this place.

But similar to other pillars of the governments responsibilities they're failing miserably to deliver.

My suggestion...change the government.
And replace with what? A dictatorship? Do people get to decide in your change-gubberment scenario?

With regard to Dublin (and within Ireland, it's a Dublin problem even though those dumbass politicians rule the whole country), where you have an illegal commodity that lots of people want, it's a recipe for criminal gangs to start coining it; c.f. Mafia and Prohibition.

Either you vastly increase police powers (cue screeches of outrage from the lowbrows here) or you make the illegal commodity legal and easily available. Your OP is singularly lacking in addressing these complexities, hence my dismissal of it.
 


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