Ron Paul doesn't believe in evolution.

john geraghty

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Here is an entry in the blog 'The largest minority'.

Since Brownback and Tancredo are out of the race, I guess Paul decided to keep Huckabee company amongst the presidential candidates who think the Flintstones was a documentary. Denying scientific evidence is an awfully peculiar thing for a doctor to do, but then again, Ron Paul is a paradox. He voted for the border fence with Mexico, yet claims to be a libertarian. He voted against the resolution to impeach Cheney, yet claims to be a strict constitutionalist. He’s against the occupation of Iraq, yet claims to be from Texas. Understanding Paul is like trying to nail jello to a tree, and yet that doesn’t seem to matter to the majority of his supporters who still don’t have a full picture of their savior.

Despite eyebrow-raising revelations that continue to surface, such as about Paul not believing in the separation between church and state or the donations he accepts from white supremacist groups, nothing is stronger than the love a Paul fanboy has for his golden idol. Ask a left-leaning Paul supporter why they don’t just support a better candidate like Dennis Kucinich and they’ll put forth the anti-democratic group-think argument of electibility having precedence over platform. Irony anyone? Why not just support Hillary and get it over with?



It’s actually pretty shocking that Paul would use the “evolution is just a theory” argument to justify his nonacceptance of it. In science, a Theory is not merely an opinion, but a well-supported and testable explanation of how nature works. Doctor Paul must surely know the error in putting something like the geological theory of plate tectonics and my cousin’s theory that Alf is really an alien and not a muppet on equal footing. Paul has shown how extremely misinformed he is on matters of science with his solution to environmental degradation already. Perhaps we should exercise a bit of intelligent design ourselves by elected a president with at least an elementary school understanding of what constitutes scientific evidence this time around, and not someone who thinks “both sides” are equally credible.


Here is the link, which has a video too http://www.jwharrison.com/blog/2007/12/ ... evolution/
 


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Almost all the Republican candidates are creationists. Depressing that the world's main superpower may well be led by scientific illiterates. Not that Paul has a snowball's chance in hell of winning. But the likes of Huckabee etc have a chance and hold similar views. In fact his views are even nuttier.
 

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it's not their scientific illiteracy that I am worried about, it's their religious fundamentalism.

I bet you Ron Paul is also a believer in 'the rapture'

He is certainly a proponent of 'home schooling' which is basically a blank cheque for cults bigots and fanatics to have complete control over the intellectual development of their children.
 
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nothing wrong with home schooling, as long as the kids are doing okay, that's the parents choice.

As for accepting the truth about evolution, well, obviously the right to free speech is important, but I do wonder at times if some of the Republicans aren't abusing the privilege.
 

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John,

I think there is selective hearing on what Ron Paul said.

He finishes up by saying I dont think we are at a point where anybody has the absolute truth on either side.

Ron Paul is entitled to his Christian derived logic. And hey, if you just like the Billion or so Christians believe a man walked on water and rearraged the Periodic Table of elements to change approx 100% H2O into a 13% solution of C2H5OH blended with a complex mix of chemicals including Tannins and Anthocyanins then, Ron Pauls statement that evolution is just a theory is pretty rational.

In fact the theory of evolution is a just a theory and it may take some time yet to absolutely prove it.

Animals can evolve where an aberration can become competitive advantage. But to say that a complex cell with DNA, Mitochondria, derived from a soup bowl of warm water and gasses at the earliest stages of the planet, is a huge leap of faith even for Evolutionists. See below the Eukaryotic Cell and tell me what reproducable process allowed such a cell to come about.

On Paul accepting money from white supremacists groups, Paul gave a great response to Neil Cavuto on FOX News. Paul doesn't mind who gives money to him because Paul will spend it ONLY on what Paul believes in. Anyone is free to donate to his cause. This is in stark contrast to the Military and Oligarch corporations DIRECTING the policies of their puppet Presidential candidates (eg Hillary, Giuliani) to, for example, invade countries and kill people for massive profit.


Paul for President would be a breath of fresh air. Some commentators are so used to residing in a bastardised version of democracy, with the regular departure from the norms set down by the Constitution, they dont know real democracy when its speaking to them and running for President.

Three Cheers for RON PAUL.

 

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Seabhcan. How come the guy with zero chance can draw 5000 to hear him and is the biggest money raiser while most others are broke.
 

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Destiny's Soldier said:
John,

I think there is selective hearing on what Ron Paul said.

He finishes up by saying I dont think we are at a point where anybody has the absolute truth on either side.

Ron Paul is entitled to his Christian derived logic. And hey, if you just like the Billion or so Christians believe a man walked on water and rearraged the Periodic Table of elements to change approx 100% H2O into a 13% solution of C2H5OH blended with a complex mix of chemicals including Tannins and Anthocyanins then, Ron Pauls statement that evolution is just a theory is pretty rational.

In fact the theory of evolution is a just a theory and it may take some time yet to absolutely prove it.

Animals can evolve where an aberration can become competitive advantage. But to say that a complex cell with DNA, Mitochondria, derived from a soup bowl of warm water and gasses at the earliest stages of the planet, is a huge leap of faith even for Evolutionists. See below the Eukaryotic Cell and tell me what reproducable process allowed such a cell to come about.

On Paul accepting money from white supremacists groups, Paul gave a great response to Neil Cavuto on FOX News. Paul doesn't mind who gives money to him because Paul will spend it ONLY on what Paul believes in. Anyone is free to donate to his cause. This is in stark contrast to the Military and Oligarch corporations DIRECTING the policies of their puppet Presidential candidates (eg Hillary, Giuliani) to, for example, invade countries and kill people for massive profit.


Paul for President would be a breath of fresh air. Some commentators are so used to residing in a bastardised version of democracy, with the regular departure from the norms set down by the Constitution, they dont know real democracy when its speaking to them and running for President.

Three Cheers for RON PAUL.



I don't think you are right: to science Evolution is a Law. The word "Theory" is misleading.
 

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nineteensixtyseven said:
I don't see much to recommend Ron Paul, what's with his army of trolls on virtually every board I go to?
Maybe we're impressed with his message.

No. Im not a Troll. I don't mind SDLP youths trip trapping over my bridge.

I see tons of things to recommend Ron Paul, and maybe, perhaps you are blind to the balls Paul has shown to speak out against the Fed.

An Obstatrician / Gynacologist with a respect for Human Life is better any day than the Firefighter killer / Zionist Giuliani.
 

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seabhcan said:
Akrasia said:
He is certainly a proponent of 'home schooling' which is basically a blank cheque for cults bigots and fanatics to have complete control over the intellectual development of their children.
You know that we have a constitutional right to "home school" here in Ireland, don't you?
The people most likely to avail of that constitutional right are the aforementioned cults, bigots and fanatics.
 

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Destiny's Soldier said:
John,

I think there is selective hearing on what Ron Paul said.

He finishes up by saying I dont think we are at a point where anybody has the absolute truth on either side.

Ron Paul is entitled to his Christian derived logic. And hey, if you just like the Billion or so Christians believe a man walked on water and rearraged the Periodic Table of elements to change approx 100% H2O into a 13% solution of C2H5OH blended with a complex mix of chemicals including Tannins and Anthocyanins then, Ron Pauls statement that evolution is just a theory is pretty rational.

In fact the theory of evolution is a just a theory and it may take some time yet to absolutely prove it.

Animals can evolve where an aberration can become competitive advantage. But to say that a complex cell with DNA, Mitochondria, derived from a soup bowl of warm water and gasses at the earliest stages of the planet, is a huge leap of faith even for Evolutionists. See below the Eukaryotic Cell and tell me what reproducable process allowed such a cell to come about.

Ah yes, what a surprise, an anti climate change person who believes propaganda of the 'intelligent design' charlatans.

Nothing has ever been discovered that fits in with that 'irreducible complexity' hypothesis.

The cornerstone of that particular version of the 'creationist' lie is that some mechanisms in nature are so specialised that they could not operate in any way unless every part of the fully evolved mechanism is present in its final form. The designers of the 'Intelligent design' nonsense used the Bacterial Flagellum as their primary example of such a 'designed' mechanism, and of course, they were completely and utterly wrong.

http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CB/CB200_1.html
 

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Akrasia said:
seabhcan said:
Akrasia said:
He is certainly a proponent of 'home schooling' which is basically a blank cheque for cults bigots and fanatics to have complete control over the intellectual development of their children.
You know that we have a constitutional right to "home school" here in Ireland, don't you?
The people most likely to avail of that constitutional right are the aforementioned cults, bigots and fanatics.
No I think you are referring to those who object to choice of home-schooling.
 
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Destiny's Soldier said:
nineteensixtyseven said:
I don't see much to recommend Ron Paul, what's with his army of trolls on virtually every board I go to?
Maybe we're impressed with his message.

No. Im not a Troll. I don't mind SDLP youths trip trapping over my bridge.

I see tons of things to recommend Ron Paul, and maybe, perhaps you are blind to the balls Paul has shown to speak out against the Fed.

An Obstatrician / Gynacologist with a respect for Human Life is better any day than the Firefighter killer / Zionist Giuliani.
Your defensiveness is unwarranted. I am not calling you a troll but on different boards like CiF on the Guardian you get Ron Paulers entering threads of the most marginal relevance to the Senator and posting about him en masse. Fair play to you for supporting someone who you believe in. I am just saying that I don't see much to recommend him to me personally and not that there isn't anything that would recommend him to anyone else.
 

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youngdan said:
Seabhcan. How come the guy with zero chance can draw 5000 to hear him and is the biggest money raiser while most others are broke.
The only way Ron Paul could have any chance of being elected, is if we have collectively underestimated the sheer stupidity and gullibility of the registered republican voters.


Admittedly, that is a very real possibility.
 

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White Horse said:
Akrasia said:
seabhcan said:
Akrasia said:
He is certainly a proponent of 'home schooling' which is basically a blank cheque for cults bigots and fanatics to have complete control over the intellectual development of their children.
You know that we have a constitutional right to "home school" here in Ireland, don't you?
The people most likely to avail of that constitutional right are the aforementioned cults, bigots and fanatics.
No I think you are referring to those who object to choice of home-schooling.
Yeah. I'm a bigot a cult and a fanatic because I don't think vulnerable children should be isolated from other children and educated entirely by unstable, unqualified highly ideologically driven, possibly insane individuals
 

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The irony is that, compared to such of the republican candidates, Paul is almost sane. Huckabee is a nutcase with views that turn most people's stomachs outside the US. Yet some conservative Christians actually think he is a liberal and are refusing to endorse him!
 


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