Ron Paul

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He strikes me as being a very able politician with integrity and a firm belief in the original values of the US. Why isn't he president?
 


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He strikes me as being a very able politician with integrity and a firm belief in the original values of the US. Why isn't he president?
I'm not a libertarian, but I love him. And it's probably his incredible honesty that has cost him popular support beyond his fans, because he is willing to admit his positions on such things as education, health care and civil rights laws. The latter makes him look like a racist, he believes that society should put pressure to avoid discrimination(at least, that's what he's said), not government, but most people say that it's just 'cause he hates blacks.
 

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He strikes me as being a very able politician with integrity and a firm belief in the original values of the US. Why isn't he president?
Simple, he didn't have the corporate/MSM backing necessary to become president. It is more of a selection than an election, the corporations, media and "NGO" groups select who they want as candidates the media hypes them up for the primary's and the public gets to choose one of the approved candidates at the end, (usually the one that is hyped up the most by the media), it's farcical.

Here is one of Naders campaign ads:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5WiE6MnmCM]YouTube - Three Way Presidential Debate - Obama, McCain, and Nader[/ame]

I am not a Nader fan, but this ad highlights just how farcical the theatrical Punch and Judy show really is.
 

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Because we don't live in an 18th century agrarian society? I hope all of his international fans think about how great it would be if someone took away your old-age pension, any semblance of support for health care, abolished your education ministry, etc. I can't believe after the past few months anyone would support a libertarian agenda, much less an extremist Paultard libertarian agenda.

On the plus side, he's way too big of a nutcase to do any real harm. And he's as old as John McCain, so I'm sure retirement is right around the corner.
 

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Ron Paul is okay but he did suck alot of support from third party candidates, and then didn't endorse them.
 

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The Paulites are in good spirits. He has been proven correct on the economy and the wars will soon prove him correct as well. Kungfugazi as usual is correct it is a selection process where the chosen are molded for public consumption. It is only after the selection of someone like the new WH head that some wake up. One of the previous posters will never wake up.

The good news is that the MSM are on it's last legs financially and the likes of the NY Times will be gone by 2010. The phoney preachers have been shown up like Dobson and the republicans, what is left, will be looking for a platform to move ahead with.

The Paulite's confidently expect Obama to follow economic policies that will a sight to see and there will be nobody to blame so roll on Obama
 

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Because we don't live in an 18th century agrarian society? I hope all of his international fans think about how great it would be if someone took away your old-age pension, any semblance of support for health care, abolished your education ministry, etc. I can't believe after the past few months anyone would support a libertarian agenda, much less an extremist Paultard libertarian agenda.

On the plus side, he's way too big of a nutcase to do any real harm. And he's as old as John McCain, so I'm sure retirement is right around the corner.
Strange thing is he didn't propose any of that. He wanted to make pensions optional, return to a healthcare system as it was before LBJ and Nixon destroyed it and abolish the dept of education, yes that one is indefensable. Hurtling America back to... 1979.

How did they cope before 1979?
 

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Ron Paul is okay but he did suck alot of support from third party candidates, and then didn't endorse them.
He endorsed Bob Barr, and he was part of the meeting between various independents that attempted to highlight key issues where independents all agreed with the wider public while the two main parties didn't. Even before he endorsed Barr he asked his supporters to vote third party.
 

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Strange thing is he didn't propose any of that. He wanted to make pensions optional, return to a healthcare system as it was before LBJ and Nixon destroyed it and abolish the dept of education, yes that one is indefensable. Hurtling America back to... 1979.

How did they cope before 1979?
If people opt out of social security it would just make the system go bankrupt a lot sooner, thus ending social security.
 

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He endorsed Bob Barr, and he was part of the meeting between various independents that attempted to highlight key issues where independents all agreed with the wider public while the two main parties didn't. Even before he endorsed Barr he asked his supporters to vote third party.
Oh okay thanks, i missed that. In the last interview i heard he stated that he didn't support any third candidate.
 

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He did not support Barr. Barr turned out as a big dissappointent and may have been a straw. He supported and endorsed Chuck Baldwin of the Constitution Party
 

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He did not support Barr. Barr turned out as a big dissappointent and may have been a straw. He supported and endorsed Chuck Baldwin of the Constitution Party
Another winnner--the evangelical former head of the Florida Moral Majority (he counts Jerry Falwell and Pat Buchanan among his good pals):

God's Own Spoilers
Can the nation's most extreme political party swing the presidential election?

"...The blond-haired, blue-eyed, 53-year-old became a Constitution Party favorite by launching the Institute for the Constitution, which peddles 12-week seminars teaching a Biblical version of the U.S. government. His membership in the League of the South has helped bring neo-Confederates into the Constitution Party."

I tell you, it certainly would help if third parties didn't keep putting forward such freakshows--they might actually get somewhere.
 

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Ah crap. It seems hard to believe that such a supporter of liberty would endorse something like that, they want to impose religious beliefs on society at the expense of liberty. And why are they named the "constitution party" when they seem happy to ignore separation of church and state...?
 

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He strikes me as being a very able politician with integrity and a firm belief in the original values of the US. Why isn't he president?
Because he's a white supremicist loon who lives in the 18th century
 

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Because he's a white supremicist loon who lives in the 18th century

Right, yeah thats why he said this so, is it?

"With the election behind us, our country turns hopeful eyes to the future. I have a few hopes of my own.

I congratulate our first African-American president-elect. Martin Luther King, Jr. certainly would be proud to see this day. We are stronger for embracing diversity, and I am hopeful that we can continue working through the tensions and wrongs of the past and become a more just and colorblind society. I hope this new administration will help bring us together, and not further divide us. I have always found that freedom is the best way to break down barriers. A free society emphasizes the importance of individuals, and not because they are part of a certain group. That’s the only way equal justice can be achieved."
Campaign For Liberty — Blog

Why don't you go back to North Korea and stop being such an ill informed commie gobshyte?
 

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I hate to talk facts but here they are. Paul got 1.2 million votes and McCain got 8.5 million in the primaries. Not a bad figure. Now McCain is gone and Paul is on the Cavuto Show being asked his opinion. On to 2010 is the key for the Paulites now.

Barr shocked when it turned out that his wife had an abortion. He was done after that and even Paulites knew it. He did not offer Paul the top of the ticket but offered the 2nd place which Wayne Root held.
 

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He is 73 now so presumably must be on the verge of retirement. Who would his supporters look to as a successor?
 


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