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RTE Economic Analysis by PWC


Howya

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A recent report attempts to show RTE's contribution to the economy in 2011.

http://static.rasset.ie/documents/about/pwc-making-an-impact.pdf

On the plus side, at least RTE are making an attempt to show they have some use.

On the negative, the report is referenced against the drop in revenues since 2007 - I despair when entities continue to use boom era comparables. Show stats from before 2007 and maybe it will engender some support.

But then this is p.ie....
 

Ribeye

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"Rte contributed €384m to the economy in 2011"

Lol:)

Pure propaganda produced by the "our friends" in PWC, low grade propaganda at that,

Using this logic, the DSW contributes €20 billion a year to the enonomy, yay:)
 
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RTE are a drag on the economy, all they do is take money off people at the point of a gun and provide them with services they dont want. They contribute to the economy in the way a protection racket does I guess.
 

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It is hard, even for a collection of brazen shysters in suits like PWC to describe the racket of extorting 160 euro out of families who cannot afford groceries, and giving it to a collection of nepotists in a quango, as "a contribution" to the economy.

But like any firm of gombeen professionals who benefit from state contracts, PWC must try. They know where their bread is buttered.
 

EvotingMachine0197

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"Rte contributed €384m to the economy in 2011"

Lol:)

Pure propaganda produced by the "our friends" in PWC, low grade propaganda at that,

Using this logic, the DSW contributes €20 billion a year to the enonomy, yay:)
It's not the same logic at all. Without defending some of the shennanigans in RTE, they do produce/re-sell a consumable product (programming) and provide employment. They also sell advertisement time, some of which is positive for our balance of trade.
 

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Lets get a referendum on privatising RTE - with those kind of "contribution" figures we should be able to make a fair whack out of it.
 

Ribeye

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It's not the same logic at all. Without defending some of the shennanigans in RTE, they do produce/re-sell a consumable product (programming) and provide employment. They also sell advertisement time, some of which is positive for our balance of trade.
Wrong, if rte wasn't there with its monopolistic position, the advertisers would simply give the revenue to independent stations, who would be far more creative and efficient than rte are,

And anyway, rte import more programmes then the sell, way more,

If rte had never existed, there would be room in the Irish market for four or five quality Indepentents,
 

Ribeye

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I wonder how much North Korean TV contributes to the economy of the DPRK?

PWC?
 

Boy M5

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"Rte contributed €384m to the economy in 2011"

Lol:)

Pure propaganda produced by the "our friends" in PWC, low grade propaganda at that,

Using this logic, the DSW contributes €20 billion a year to the enonomy, yay:)
Is the €384 m, what was trousered by La Finucane, Turgidy, Duffy, etc.?
 

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If rte had never existed, there would be room in the Irish market for four or five quality Indepentents,
care to support that assertion with data? both as to the number and the *quality* ? (however you measure that..!)
 

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care to support that assertion with data? both as to the number and the *quality* ? (however you measure that..!)
You want me to support an "if" with data???

Ok, but only after you provide me with the German GDP figures for 1940-1945 "if" Hitler had never been born,

And I want links,

:)
 

Howya

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Is the €384 m, what was trousered by La Finucane, Turgidy, Duffy, etc.?
Slightly different figure but total RTE payroll in 2011 was 153m (out of total expenditure of 353m) - see page 15.
 

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Wrong, if rte wasn't there with its monopolistic position, the advertisers would simply give the revenue to independent stations, who would be far more creative and efficient than rte are,

And anyway, rte import more programmes then the sell, way more,

If rte had never existed, there would be room in the Irish market for four or five quality Indepentents,
I would think 2 or 3 broadcasters given the small size of the market (and likely that they would be subsidiaries of larger UK/Europe broadcasters).
 

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The logic of this nonsense from RTE is that if we double the licence fee they can contribute even more into the economy (and double the price for 'talent' to boot!).
 

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I would think 2 or 3 broadcasters given the small size of the market (and likely that they would be subsidiaries of larger UK/Europe broadcasters).
You're not factoring in extreme inefficientcy of rte,

For example, the budget for Primetime is c. 10x the budget for vinb, and vinb is far better,

The rte show about a restaurant called RAW costs €600k to make,

No, no, silly, not for the whole series,

PER FCKN EPISODE!!!!!

And it's totally sh1t,

Flippin Derek Mooney is on €200k p.a., that's more than Merkel,

Rte just burns money, get rid of them, and private operators will flourish,
 

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Decco says it like it is,

@declanganley: RTE 'Licence Fee' backed by coercion =Tax. RTE as zero competition, pre-picked 'winner' = Corporatism. No Lowry Tapes= Public Service #Fail
 

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Decco says it like it is,

@declanganley: RTE 'Licence Fee' backed by coercion =Tax. RTE as zero competition, pre-picked 'winner' = Corporatism. No Lowry Tapes= Public Service #Fail
Wonder what the view Europe would take of the obvious state aid implications?
 

Ribeye

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Wonder what the view Europe would take of the obvious state aid implications?
Nuttin, the banks being the obvious example of that rule being laughable,
 

Ribeye

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so that's just your guess then, not actually any researched or quantifiable position. fair enough. ;)
Yep, a guess, based on evidence of what happens when a monopolist is removed from a market place,

All that advertising money would have to go somewhere,
 
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