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Ruairi Quinn: child benefit is a "holiday fund"


Honecker

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Looks like Ruairi Quinn has shot himself in the foot by saying that child benefit was a "holiday fund" for some families. I'm sure he'll claim he was taken out of context but this could cause more friction between the Labour leadership and grassroots. Comments like this are more what you'd expect from the UKIP than Labour.

Quinn storm over claim child benefit is 'a holiday fund' - Independent.ie
 
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Dylan2010

weve never spent a penny of our child benefit since the kids were born :D
 

cyberianpan

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He speaks the truth, and I'm not so sure that even the hard left would disagree with what he said

cYp
 

mr. jings

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'Mr Quinn yesterday acknowledged that many people depend on child benefit to pay for necessities'. Non story being puffed up by the Indo perchancehaps?
 

Mushroom

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He's wrong there.

The missus and I always used it to buy some good wines from O'Brien's monthly wine sale. Then, if we had any loose change left, we'd buy some coke and crisps for the kids. It wouldn't be right to be selfish, now would it?
 

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If Ruairi is right why then do Dunnes Stores & Tesco frequently promote products like nappies and so forth on the first Tuesday of each month?
 

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cillian32

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I suppose he is correct, although it will be used against him.
 

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devoutcapitalist

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He did state "some people" he wasn't tarring all parents with the same brush as regards spending CB on holidays but for some people who did or continue to spend CB on holidays or other non essential activities the truth is obviously bitter.

My partner has a 7 year old kid, she works full time and certainly doesn't spend her CB on holidays or other non essentials.
 

Analyzer

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Looks like Ruairi Quinn has shot himself in the foot by saying that child benefit was a "holiday fund" for some families. I'm sure he'll claim he was taken out of context but this could cause more friction between the Labour leadership and grassroots. Comments like this are more what you'd expect from the UKIP than Labour.

Quinn storm over claim child benefit is 'a holiday fund' - Independent.ie
No. comments like this are exactly what you get from Ireland's champagne socialists, the Irish Looper Party.

Amazing stuff from somebody who has Mrs. Gimmemore as an advisor (how much did that school site make ?) and who was involved in controversy concerning mileage earlier this year.

Ruairi Spin.
 
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He speaks the truth, and I'm not so sure that even the hard left would disagree with what he said

cYp
He speaks the truth in some cases. I know quite a lot or people to whom that applies, but I also remember a survey on poverty I was involved in in the early 80's. We met a huge amount of people for whom "Mickey Money Day" was a liifeline. It was also a big day for the pubs in some areas of Dublin.

The big problem is this:
But the Parents Against Child Benefit Cuts group criticised Mr Quinn's claim about some parents calling child benefit the "holiday fund". Its spokeswoman Niamh Ui Cheallaigh said she had never come across a parent who used it to pay for a holiday.
As with most SIG's, their spokesperson is speaking from her experience with a skewed sample. The sort of people who are involved with the group or those who make representations to it are likely to be people who will be hurt by changes.

Those who are seeing their holiday fund reduced are hardly likely to make approaches to them on that basis or to admit that is why they are making approaches.

He is right in many cases, though.
 

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I wish! Haven't been able to fund a holiday for years.
 

james5001

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I'm not even going to bother opening that link. It is for some people and for others it isn't. I'd say that's his position.
 

james5001

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No. comments like this are exactly what you get from Ireland's champagne socialists, the Irish Looper Party.

Amazing stuff from somebody who has Mrs. Gimmemore as an advisor (how much did that school site make ?) and who was involved in controversy concerning mileage earlier this year.

Ruairi Spin.
Definitely can't fit any more terrible puns into that post.
 

devoutcapitalist

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People go mad when politicians lie, then when a politician actually speaks their mind occasionally, people are up in arms, Its a strange country we live in.
 

cogar

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Oh, come on guys and gals and let's stop being so precious and hyper sensitive. Of course the minister is correct and many families do not need or indeed want child benefit and they use it for the hols or save it to buy to young one a car. It is a universal payment. So, stop paying it universally or tax it. But, let's not kick the guy when he tells it as it is.
 
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