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Sainsburys & Asda claim 2.5% of IRISH Grocery market


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BRITISH RETAIL giants Sainsburys and Asda captured a 2.5 per cent share of the grocery market in the Republic last December even though they have no shops here, latest market research figures show.

More from The Irish Times.

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Euronews on crossborder shopping

euronews | Dublin doubts euro-shoppers’ patriotism

A report on Euronews about cross-border shopping. The lad from Dundalk sounds like an idiot. Talking along the lines that the bold people of Newry are mean for having lower prices. With this mindset our problems will never be addressed.

None of this boo-hooing deals with the problem. Superquinn closed in Dundalk because it was more expensive to buy the same products than it is 10 miles up the road. More shops will close until price parity is achieved.
Yet we hear very few people actually offering anything progressive on the issue.
 

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The Sooner we get ASDA down here in the south the better.

Then we will really see a drop in prices throughout Ireland from a Price war between the main players.
 

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saying that Tesco are a cheap store in the North and are expensive in the south. So it wouldnt necessarily follow that Asda would be cheap in the South.
People in all walks of life just have to accept that they dont have an intrinsic right to be wealthy
 

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Imagine what they could acheive if they actually opened up down here.

The day the open up is the day we will see real price reductions on our shelves.

Then it will be Bye Bye Dunnes, Superquinn Supervalue and Proper pricing from Tesco Ireland to compare with their UK prices.

Look at ASDA in the UK today, they have announced a extra 7,000 jobs to be created this year!
 

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This is a warning to our rip-off merchants and the govt in the South. To the retailers - cop yourselves on. To the govt - tackle hefty utility costs - notably in the electricity-sector - with more competition. The average-wage in the ESB is (no kidding) €100,000. Plainly, a showdown with the unions in that organisation is long overdue. Like the French nobility before 1789, their refusal to rescind their privileges stands between the country and economic recovery.
 
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This is why we need an all-Island economy.

To have two separate economies on such a small land mass is ridiculous
 

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The problem is:
Firstly chain stores in the north are effectively subsidised by a common UK price, whereas their ROI counterparts pass on the additional delivery costs to the consumer.
Secondly VAT in the UK is lower.
Thirdly wages in the north are lower.
 

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How do they measure it?

I shop up in the North occasionaly and nobody has asked me where I come from.
 

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VAT, Excise and Corporation Tax differentials along with sterling depreciation cost our economies dearly and create crippling disadvantages for both jurisdictions at different times.

Every one knows its a problem. Now all we need is the political will to fix it. An All Ireland Economic Committee should be set up made up from the Dáil and the Assembly in order steer both jurisdictions towards convergence in these areas
 

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VAT, Excise and Corporation Tax differentials along with sterling depreciation cost our economies dearly and create crippling disadvantages for both jurisdictions at different times.

Every one knows its a problem. Now all we need is the political will to fix it. An All Ireland Economic Committee should be set up made up from the Dáil and the Assembly in order steer both jurisdictions towards convergence in these areas
Vat is a meaningless difference. Even if we had 0% vat goods would still be cheaper up north.
 

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The problem is:
Firstly chain stores in the north are effectively subsidised by a common UK price, whereas their ROI counterparts pass on the additional delivery costs to the consumer.
Secondly VAT in the UK is lower.
Thirdly wages in the north are lower.
The delivery costs are a minor addition. Anyway, most of the goods deliveries for NI pass through Dublin Port.
 

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In relation to delivery costs. Most items produced in the Republic are cheaper in the North, so this is not a valid excuse. Profiteering is rife. A great example of this is shops charging an extra 50c for mobile phone credit - something I dont believe happens anywhere in the North.
 

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The average-wage in the ESB is (no kidding) €100,000.
I thought the average ESB wage was more around the €60 - €67k mark but either way, still about 45% too high.

As for Asda opening a store in the south, whats the chance of them playing fair by the Irish people and not trying shaft us with (slightly less) inflated prices?
 

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In relation to delivery costs. Most items produced in the Republic are cheaper in the North, so this is not a valid excuse. Profiteering is rife. A great example of this is shops charging an extra 50c for mobile phone credit - something I dont believe happens anywhere in the North.
They charge that because that is the surcharge they pay to the topup company - Payzone- for each transaction. It is up to the shop whether they pass on the surcharge or not. Just go to one that doesn't - it is that simple.
 

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How do they measure it?

I shop up in the North occasionaly and nobody has asked me where I come from.
The figures are from TNS, they have an Irish panel of consumers who keep their receipts after every purchase and then submitt to TNS to measure retailer performance and various product category and brand performance.
I'm assuming TNS have worked out the share of ROI shoppers Asda and Sainsbury's NI have won during the month of December from their panel.
 

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