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Satanic Ritual Abuse in Ireland


Kilbarry

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There is a remarkable article in the Irish Independent today entitled "Clive (13) Had Visions of Monsters but the Truth Was Even Worse - haunting memories of a child protection worker". The article is an extract from the book "Hush Little Baby" by experienced child care worker Shane Dunphy.

The URL of the article is http://www.independent.ie/lifestyle/rel ... 61030.html

This seems to be the first serious allegation of Satanic Ritual Abuse (SRA) in Ireland. We had a very few cases of "Recovered Memory Syndrome" but none of SRA. Even in the USA where that witch-hunt started, SRA was consigned to the scrap heap in the 1990s. This followed an FBI Report which declared that there was no concrete evidence of ANY crime involving Satanic Ritual Abuse.

According to his book "Shane Dunphy has worked in social care, and specifically as a child care worker for over fifteen years. During this time he has worked extensively with children and their families. He is widely recognised as one of the leading experts in child protection in Ireland. Hush Little Baby is his third book."

In the Irish Independent the story of "Clive" is presented as a true account with only the names changed. In his book there is a very important qualification on page 238 that "while Clive is based on a specific child I worked with, the events surrounding him and his family are a composite of three cases I was involved in, in various capacities." In both article and book the Catholic Church is (literally!) demonised and held responsible for events in this lunatic scenario constructed by Shane Dunphy.

Perhaps Mr Dunphy should write to the FBI and inform them that they were wrong about Satanic Ritual Abuse!
 

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More crazy religious ****.

At least Christianity isn't obsessed with blood and rituals.
Oh wait.....
 

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Not this nonsense again!!! :roll:
 

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NotDevsSon said:
Not this nonsense again!!! :roll:
Worrying.

Analyst/Insider/NotDevsSon is wrong on practically everything, so maybe there is something in these SRA allegations.

The nature of corrupt, oligarchical establishments is, well, to be corrupt. It's what they do.

Stuart Syvret, the courageous Jersey politician that has exposed child abusers in Jersey, has exposed how a corrupt establishment (some of whom were Freemasons) covered up allegations of abuse over DECADES. http://stuartsyvret.blogspot.com/

Given that we in Ireland also had a corrupt, oligarchical establishment ruling the roost for decades - elements of the Catholic Church and their facilitators - it's not really a big stretch to find some of these allegations credible.
 

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The people who perpetrate these abuses love to be called Satanists and Devil Worshipers because they know people will switch off and cry nonsense at the sound of it and by this attention is diverted away from the true reality , The religion is not Satanism or Devil Worship, The proper name is Atonism an ancient religion which comes from 3500 BC Egypt and was founded by an Egyptian Pharaoh called Akanaton who was the father of Tutankhamen. Although Akanaton's life is well documented he is one of the least known Pharaohs and oddly enough he is never mentioned in most history books.

Atonism spread into what is now Israel from Egypt and was brought to Europe by the Knights Templar where many of is mystic elements became the basis for magical cults and secret society's such as the Golden Dawn and Freemasonry, There is a dark side to Atonism where certain elements believe that abuse,both sexual and physical even ritual sacrifice of children especially, releases magical energy's that empower those who perform the rituals.

The reason why there is a concerted effort in Ireland especially to cover up and play down this abuse is a testament to the stranglehold that Freemasonry has on our Political and Judicial system. While not all Freemasons practice these despicable acts ,most of the people who do practice it are Freemasons or are connected to similar secret and magical society's. These society's have made anonymity a fine art and have swore oaths of allegiance under pain of death to protect there brethren at all costs no matter what crime they have committed.

Many books have been written on this subject but its has long been known that Atonism has infiltrated many religious organizations and the Catholic Church is no exception though the extent is not known, Rasputin who was a self professed Atonist in Russia during the time of the Tzars made no secret of the fact and even famously asked for sexual rights to the Tzars children in return for healing there only son who was a Hemophiliac.

The Rape Crisis have made many statements concerning so called Satanic abuse and they have been saying for a long time that up to 30% of child abuse cases they deal with have occult connections but unfortunately they have long been ignored.
 

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That is a load of b.s. right there, Paqtrick.
 

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Its very easy to dismiss anything as B.S if your ignorant of any knowledge on the subject, A good place to start would be to read some of the works of Anton LaVey or Aleister Crowley , Crowley especially as he spent years warning the world that children were being kidnapped raped and murdered by Occult organizations all across Europe on an industrial scale. Although Crowley Himself seems to not have heeded his own warnings as both of his children died in mysterious circumstances.
 

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Paqtrick said:
Its very easy to dismiss anything as B.S if your ignorant of any knowledge on the subject, A good place to start would be to read some of the works of Anton LaVey or Aleister Crowley , Crowley especially as he spent years warning the world that children were being kidnapped raped and murdered by Occult organizations all across Europe on an industrial scale. Although Crowley Himself seems to not have heeded his own warnings as both of his children died in mysterious circumstances.
Aleister Crowley was a Satanist and child-abuser.
 
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Paqtrick said:
Its very easy to dismiss anything as B.S if your ignorant of any knowledge on the subject, A good place to start would be to read some of the works of Anton LaVey or Aleister Crowley , Crowley especially as he spent years warning the world that children were being kidnapped raped and murdered by Occult organizations all across Europe on an industrial scale. Although Crowley Himself seems to not have heeded his own warnings as both of his children died in mysterious circumstances.
Perhaps the Cleveland case, which involved several innocent families being ripped apart, might be instructive reading also. Something like three-quarters of the cases involved misdiagnosis, these diagnoses being overturned by the courts. Something like a witch-hunt by social-workers had occurred, leading to a living hell for the innocent parents of these children.
 

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Almanac said:
Paqtrick said:
Its very easy to dismiss anything as B.S if your ignorant of any knowledge on the subject, A good place to start would be to read some of the works of Anton LaVey or Aleister Crowley , Crowley especially as he spent years warning the world that children were being kidnapped raped and murdered by Occult organizations all across Europe on an industrial scale. Although Crowley Himself seems to not have heeded his own warnings as both of his children died in mysterious circumstances.
Aleister Crowley was a Satanist and child-abuser.
Did he abuse children? I wouldn't rule it out as he was absolutely subhuman in the perversions he acted on but I've never heard of him being a paedo before.
 

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There is no evidence that Crowley was a child abuser other than the fact both of his children died young which led to to a lot of mindless speculation and neither was he a Satanist , Crowley was a Luciferian , Luciferianism has absolutely nothing to do with Satanism and has no link to the biblical Lucifer , it is a set of magical principles which revolves around sun worship hence the name of the order which he helped found the Golden Dawn .Crowley had dark aspects to his character without a doubt but he was also a genius and had incredible insight into the human mind . Atonism which i mentioned above is also a form of Luciferianism and so some might argue is christianity.
 

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Paqtrick wrote:
The Rape Crisis have made many statements concerning so called Satanic abuse and they have been saying for a long time that up to 30% of child abuse cases they deal with have occult connections but unfortunately they have long been ignored.
What is ritual abuse?
It's quite true that the Rape Crisis Network in Ireland (RCNI) takes Satanic Abuse seriously although I can't find where they claim that it is involved in 30% of cases. On their website http://www.rcni.ie they state that:

"In the past 15 years survivors have been disclosing experiences of Satanic Ritual Abuse to Rape Crisis Centres, social workers, counsellors and other caring agencies here in Ireland. In response Rape Crisis Centres, led by Galway RCC, carried out extensive skills building, networking and research on the issue throughout the 1990s. The number of those who are coming forward in Ireland is still very limited but this form of abuse does exist in Ireland. Equally, expertise and help in recovery from ritual abuse is available."

They then give a couple of useful contact numbers!

The following is a detailed definition from the RCNI website. The URL is http://www.rcni.ie/assault_9.htm

What is Ritual Abuse?
Definition:
"A brutal form of abuse of children, adolescents and adults, consisting of physical, sexual and psychological abuse, and involving the use of rituals. Rituals does not necessarily mean satanic. However, most survivors state that they were ritually abused as part of satanic worship for the purpose of indoctrinating them into satanic beliefs and practices. Ritual abuse rarely consists of a single episode. It usually involves repeated abuse over an extended period of time." (Ritual Abuse Task Force, Los Angeles County Commission for Women, 1994)

Abusers use repetition, routine and ritual to coerce children into the patterns of behaviour they require, to instil fear and ensure silence. Nursery rhymes, prayers, bath times or teddy bears might be used like this by an abusing father; gifts, secrets, elaborate games, dressing up, taking photographs may be part of a paedophile's ritual preparation of a victim.

The sexual abuse of a child is never a random act, it always involves thorough planning and preparation to gain and maintain access to children for their sexual exploitation. Satanic ritual abuse is therefore very closely related both practically and ideologically to paedophilia. However, satanic ritual abuse brings with it the added elements of religion and worship. Often generations of a family are involved and the acts may be incessantly more horrific than seen elsewhere. However, ritual abuse is not always satanic or 'black magic'.

Child sexual abuse is always about power and secrecy. Ritual abuse survivors frequently fear for their lives - their abusers may be highly organised and have more to lose than custody or respectability. Yet survivors are beginning to speak out and we are beginning to listen.
Satanic Ritual Abuse is definitely a Feminist concept. When the idea began to take off in California in the 1970s, I think that some evangelical Christians took it seriously at first but they seem to have dropped out pretty soon. As a serious issue - i.e. one that can lead to a criminal court trial - SRA is dead in the USA. However the related concept of Recovered Memory is very much alive in the USA and has played a role in two court cases in Ireland - that of Nora Wall and of the Christian Brother who was recently acquitted. [ See Topic "Christian Brother Acquitted: Anti-Clerical Worker Blamed" on viewtopic.php?f=88&t=39201 ]
 

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Paqtrick said:
Theres no evidence that Crowley was a child abuser other than the fact both of his children died young which led to to a lot of mindless speculation and neither was he a Satanist , Crowley was a Luciferian, Luciferianism has absolutely nothing to do with Satanism and has no link to the biblical Lucifer, it is a set of magical principles which revolves around sun worship hence the name of the order which he helped found the Golden Dawn.Crowley had dark aspects to his character without a doubt but he was also a genius and had had incredible insight into the human mind.Atonism which i mentioned above is also a form of Luciferianism and some some might argue so is christianity.

I know he had a wee girl who died of some disease when she was young and a son who he had when he was old who outlived him. Who was the other who died young?

I don't think he was a paedo.
 

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Blinding writes: "Whats the catholic church been up to now!"
Good question because Shane Dunphy's treatment of the Catholic Church is ludicrious. In his book (bit NOT in the Irish Independent article) Mr Dunphy states that "Clive" is a composite of three cases he dealt with. In the book he mentions in passing that the bishop disapproves of (the villian) Father Eddie's interest in occultism, the kaballah, pagan rites etc and that the latter "defended his activities in the name of ecumenism". In any case the whole idea is nonsense - that a young child is turned into a murderous lunatic by accompanying his dying mother to satanic abuse sessions disguised as prayer meetings and that he then recovers because his social worker provides him with insight into the cause of his behaviour. In the entire canon of medical literature is there anything to match this?
 

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Almanac said:
Paqtrick said:
Its very easy to dismiss anything as B.S if your ignorant of any knowledge on the subject, A good place to start would be to read some of the works of Anton LaVey or Aleister Crowley , Crowley especially as he spent years warning the world that children were being kidnapped raped and murdered by Occult organizations all across Europe on an industrial scale. Although Crowley Himself seems to not have heeded his own warnings as both of his children died in mysterious circumstances.
Aleister Crowley was a Satanist and child-abuser.
And a heroin addict and skilful chess player.
 

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You know that Jack Parsons(the head of the original american rocket/jet propulsion program) was a devotee of Crowley and L.Ron Hubbard was a devotee of Parson and Hubbard founded the church of Scientology(Tom Cruise etc).
Led Zeppelin and the Beatles both paid homage to Crowley.

And that is only one of Satans tenticals
Is it any wonder that in such a religious world, we produce such bizarre claims and beliefs.
I think its time to start weeding out all this irrational nonsense.
 

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Kilbarry1 said:
There is a remarkable article in the Irish Independent today entitled "Clive (13) Had Visions of Monsters but the Truth Was Even Worse - haunting memories of a child protection worker". The article is an extract from the book "Hush Little Baby" by experienced child care worker Shane Dunphy.

The URL of the article is http://www.independent.ie/lifestyle/rel ... 61030.html

This seems to be the first serious allegation of Satanic Ritual Abuse (SRA) in Ireland. We had a very few cases of "Recovered Memory Syndrome" but none of SRA. Even in the USA where that witch-hunt started, SRA was consigned to the scrap heap in the 1990s. This followed an FBI Report which declared that there was no concrete evidence of ANY crime involving Satanic Ritual Abuse.

According to his book "Shane Dunphy has worked in social care, and specifically as a child care worker for over fifteen years. During this time he has worked extensively with children and their families. He is widely recognised as one of the leading experts in child protection in Ireland. Hush Little Baby is his third book."

In the Irish Independent the story of "Clive" is presented as a true account with only the names changed. In his book there is a very important qualification on page 238 that "while Clive is based on a specific child I worked with, the events surrounding him and his family are a composite of three cases I was involved in, in various capacities." In both article and book the Catholic Church is (literally!) demonised and held responsible for events in this lunatic scenario constructed by Shane Dunphy.

Perhaps Mr Dunphy should write to the FBI and inform them that they were wrong about Satanic Ritual Abuse!
Thanks for the link. I have read the article and still can't get my head around it. This has got to be a wind-up!
P.s. I appreciate names are changed in articles of this nature, but didn't the name of the hospital "St. Vitus" sound a bit like the track "St. Vitus dance" off "Black Sabbath volume 4"?

P.p.s. Damn good album, by the way.
 

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The people who perpetrate these abuses love to be called Satanists and Devil Worshipers because they know people will switch off and cry nonsense at the sound of it and by this attention is diverted away from the true reality , The religion is not Satanism or Devil Worship, The proper name is Atonism an ancient religion which comes from 3500 BC Egypt and was founded by an Egyptian Pharaoh called Akanaton who was the father of Tutankhamen. Although Akanaton's life is well documented he is one of the least known Pharaohs and oddly enough he is never mentioned in most history books.

Atonism spread into what is now Israel from Egypt and was brought to Europe by the Knights Templar where many of is mystic elements became the basis for magical cults and secret society's such as the Golden Dawn and Freemasonry, There is a dark side to Atonism where certain elements believe that abuse,both sexual and physical even ritual sacrifice of children especially, releases magical energy's that empower those who perform the rituals.

The reason why there is a concerted effort in Ireland especially to cover up and play down this abuse is a testament to the stranglehold that Freemasonry has on our Political and Judicial system. While not all Freemasons practice these despicable acts ,most of the people who do practice it are Freemasons or are connected to similar secret and magical society's. These society's have made anonymity a fine art and have swore oaths of allegiance under pain of death to protect there brethren at all costs no matter what crime they have committed.

Many books have been written on this subject but its has long been known that Atonism has infiltrated many religious organizations and the Catholic Church is no exception though the extent is not known, Rasputin who was a self professed Atonist in Russia during the time of the Tzars made no secret of the fact and even famously asked for sexual rights to the Tzars children in return for healing there only son who was a Hemophiliac.

The Rape Crisis have made many statements concerning so called Satanic abuse and they have been saying for a long time that up to 30% of child abuse cases they deal with have occult connections but unfortunately they have long been ignored.
What utter historical crap. Paqtrick - YOU THICK! You can't even spell the heretical pharaohs name : AKHENATEN or his possible son - TUTANKHAMUN. (Personally I believe he is his son and his name was changed but it is not proven). Your argument already sounds like Classic Ladybird Edition History for the intellectually incapacitated or downright stupid! You are obviously reading some comic book because you will not find your arguments in any self respecting historical journals.

Akhenaten was wiped from Egyptian history because of his name / beliefs - which basically can be translated as ONE GOD or SINGULAR DEITY = ATEN. He believed in a singular God which was a heresy aginst the millennia of religious beliefs in Egypt which believed in a multitude of Gods. The problem here is that the Jews were enslaved in Egypt at that time and they were meant to be the first religion to believe in ONE GOD - SINGULAR DEITY. Historians are not certain who influenced the beliefs of the other but both were in Egypt at this time.

The famous death mask of the boy king is distinctly different to the outer and inner masks that were also found in his tomb over his mummified remains. Not only were they less ornately laid but they were distinctly smaller, more in keeping with the actual appearance ofthe boy king, while the main golden mask looks far to big for such a young man. In addition as he died young and apparently quite suddenly it is unlikley that this death mask could have been prepared so quickly lending further credence to the fact that it belonged to someone else. This has led to the belief that Tutankhamun may have taken the death mask of his potential father AKHENATEN and was name was reworded to finish with AMUN instead of ATEN after his death in favour of the more traditional Egyptian religious beliefs.

Having visited the mummified remains of AKHEANTEN in Cairo recently there is a case for him being the father of the Boy King and testing later this year should help to prove or disprove this hypothesis one way or the other. We can then begin the argument about whether the Jews or the Egyptians were the first to believe in a singular deity.

Akhenaten is hardly mentioned in any history books because so little is known about him because he and his wife were deliberately written out of history and of course if Carter hadn't robbed the Boy Kings grave in advance of announcing it's discovery we might be able to piece the real story together. The Tutankhamun Deception by Gerald O'Farrell outlines the above historical arguments best of all.

You menion mystic elements and magical cults like some great insight which is quite stange after the impoverished nature of your knowledge in your opening sentences. Mysticism and the Mysteries or Mystery Religions have absolutely nothing to do with Aten or this Atonism or Satanic rituals you mention. Many religious historians believe that with the death of Gnostic teaching and Gnostic groupings that the Mysteries element of the Christian Churches and specifically the Catholic Church were ended in favour of Literalism. Many people believe that Jesus himself was influenced by the Mysteries or Mystery religions as the Secret Gospel of Mark, the Gospel of Judas and Peter all attest to but I presume you are not going to suggest that Jesus himself preached Satanic rituals. Indeed the original writings of the Bible in their greek translation prior to the Council of Nycicea (may have spelt that wrong) show that the ealiest gospels in order: Paul, Mark, Matthew and Luke all show Gnostic and Mystery influences later deleted or suppressed in the official bible. (see Mark and the mention of Jericho or the stranger at Jesus's side when the apostles fled when the Romans came to arrest Jesus as two basic but apparent examples of this in Marks Gospel). Marks original gospel stops before any resurrection later being rewritten to fit with the theme of the other Gospels - of course other Gospels have Jesus hanging from a tree but no sense in getting off the point.

However your balony about the Templar Knights is not worth considering. Templars might be portrayed in the Da Vinci code as knowing some famous or infamous secret found in ancient Jerusalem but to suggest their beliefs were based on that of the ancient Egyptian heretical beliefs as espoused by Akhenaten is absolute rubbish. This is a simple argument because his beliefs were not resurrected until many centuries later unless you have unearthed a link the rest of the world needs to be made aware of. I cannot comment definitively on the Tsar story but as the Russian Monarchy were all members of the Eastern Orthodox Church your argument does not appear to hold much credence as Orthodoxy is even more Conservative and Literalist in its interpretation of the Bible that the RC Church. However perhaps they read a different bible which I am not aware of. Again how Ancient beliefs in Egypt found their way into the Kremlin is something that I would be fascinated to be educated about - might read the Sun on that!

Trying to link the belief in God by any religion with Satan worship or Satanism is like listening to Iraneus and other extreme Orthodox / Conservative teachers professing their beliefs above all others when it came to the Cristos / Christ. Our way is right and all others is devil worship even if we have only changed the names of the characters involved!

Finally as an aside might I suggest some reading materials which might provide you with a basic / rudimentary level of knowledge regarding the Mystery Religions and how the oldest Gospel - Acts by Paul a man who never met The Christ; reinterpreted his story by incorporating many elements of the Mystery Relgions such the virgin birth, the resurrection etc etc into the story we now know as Jesus Christ. It was the only way ancient cities like Ephesus in Hellenised Turkey as it is called today would recognise and accept the Jesus story. All of these mystery religion by the likes of Pythagoras, Plato etc that are know known as Paganism all involved singular deity worship many millennia prior to the arrival of the Jewish Messiah (which only Christians recognise). 'The Jesus Mysteries - Was the Original Jesus a Pagan God' by Timothy Freke and Peter Gandy shows how Paganism was incorporated into Christian teaching and thought much like the Pagan ritual to the summit of Croagh Patrick was.

Name the God Son:

He is God made flesh, the saviour and son of God
His father is God and his mother a mortal virgin
He is born in a cave or humble cowshed on 25 December before 3 shepherds
He offers followers the chance to be born again through Baptism
He turns water into wine at a marriage ceremony
He rides triumphantly intio town on a donkey while people wave palm leaves to honour him
He dies at Eastertime as a sacrifice for the sins of the world
After his death he descends to hell but on the third day he rises from the dead and ascends to heaven in glory
His followers await his return as the judge during the last days
His death and resurrection are celebrated by a ritual meal of bread and wine which symbolize his body and blood

This is a stroy from ancient Egypt - the story of the god son Osiris. Many millenia before the birth of the God man we call Jesus Christ. It is also the story of the God man Dionysus of Greek religion many centuries before the birth of Jesus Christ. You can visit the Cairo museum to check the authenticity of the Osiris story and I can't think of the town in Cyprus on the far south east coast near the airport (opposite side of the island to Aya Naipa) where you can visit the Dionysus House and see photos of his Virgin mother holding her son Dionysus with a divine halo circling his head just like in Christian art many centuries before the birth of the man we call Jesus Christ.

Paganism, Christianity, Singular Deity beliefs or the ancient mystery religion have nothing to do with Satanic rituals. I believe I have made my point in relation to this dumb ass level of historical accuracy, opinion and beliefs which you have espoused.
 
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