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Saudi Arabia funding Islamic extremism, how bad is the problem, and what to do?

cyberianpan

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Saudi Arabia as a state sponsors Islamic extremism

Saudia Arabian individuals finance the violent operations of Islamic extremists
How Kosovo Was Turned Into Fertile Ground for ISIS - NYTimes.com

Saudi Arabia funds and exports Islamic extremism: The truth behind the toxic U.S. relationship with the theocratic monarchy - Salon.com

Wikileaks: Saudis 'chief funders of al-Qaeda' - Telegraph

Saudis to establish school in Dublin

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saudi_Arabian_textbook_controversy

Thousands of Western middle managers have been placed into sensitive positions in order to try and ensure the Saudis play nice

I don't think the softly, softly approach is working

Also the Saudi oil revenue will dry up, and with both their economy and civil society in poor shape...more violence is inevitable

Cyp
 


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Saudi Arabia as a state sponsors Islamic extremism

Saudia Arabian individuals finance the violent operations of Islamic extremists
How Kosovo Was Turned Into Fertile Ground for ISIS - NYTimes.com

Saudi Arabia funds and exports Islamic extremism: The truth behind the toxic U.S. relationship with the theocratic monarchy - Salon.com

Wikileaks: Saudis 'chief funders of al-Qaeda' - Telegraph

Saudis to establish school in Dublin

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saudi_Arabian_textbook_controversy

Thousands of Western middle managers have been placed into sensitive positions in order to try and ensure the Saudis play nice

I don't think the softly, softly approach is working

Also the Saudi oil revenue will dry up, and with both their economy and civil society in poor shape...more violence is inevitable

Cyp
You are ignoring the fact that this spending does not happen outside of the context of US and Israeli strategy for Europe and the Middle East.
 

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You are ignoring the fact that this spending does not happen outside of the context of US and Israeli strategy for Europe and the Middle East.
And what flows from that is how do hell do we get the ROI out of the EU and keep her out of NATO?
 

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You are ignoring the fact that this spending does not happen outside of the context of US and Israeli strategy for Europe and the Middle East.
Plus the Saudis are propping up the dollar or more specifically the petrodollar.
 

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Saudi Arabia as a state sponsors Islamic extremism

Saudia Arabian individuals finance the violent operations of Islamic extremists
How Kosovo Was Turned Into Fertile Ground for ISIS - NYTimes.com

Saudi Arabia funds and exports Islamic extremism: The truth behind the toxic U.S. relationship with the theocratic monarchy - Salon.com

Wikileaks: Saudis 'chief funders of al-Qaeda' - Telegraph

Saudis to establish school in Dublin

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saudi_Arabian_textbook_controversy

Thousands of Western middle managers have been placed into sensitive positions in order to try and ensure the Saudis play nice

I don't think the softly, softly approach is working

Also the Saudi oil revenue will dry up, and with both their economy and civil society in poor shape...more violence is inevitable

Cyp
Their oil revenue will dry up sooner or later.

But they have invested wisely, and have done so for years.

I don't think they'll suffer much when the oil runs out.

America, and the big european countries, or should I say the big corporations, are too busy selling them arms and services to care how mental these people are.

If anybody cared, or if america judged them by the same standard as they seem to have judged many other countries, they would have obliterated that backward sh1thole years ago.

It hasn't nor will it happen.

Because, the customer is always right.
 

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But but but Charlie Flanagan and co wants us to be friends with these camel jockeys
 

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As long as they're buying the amount of arms they're buying don't hold your breath for any change.
 

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Plus the Saudis are propping up the dollar or more specifically the petrodollar.
Yes, the Saudis have lost their position as China's top supplier of oil because they were afraid to accept Yuan for their oil. Russia stepped in and is now doing a roaring trade. Still, the Al Saud family doesn't have 6,000 nuclear weapons and the world's best missile system, as Russia does. The Al Saud family know they would quickly find themselves in an unmarked grave if they ever traded oil for anything but the Petrodollar.
 

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You are ignoring the fact that this spending does not happen outside of the context of US and Israeli strategy for Europe and the Middle East.
And it's the proverbial elephant in the room. The close ties between US, Israel and Saudi. Saudi obviously does the kind of deeds the other two cannot be seen doing and that means terrorism, Islamism, radicalisation - anti secular activities, anti democratic activities.
 

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And it's the proverbial elephant in the room. The close ties between US, Israel and Saudi. Saudi obviously does the kind of deeds the other two cannot be seen doing and that means terrorism, Islamism, radicalisation - anti secular activities, anti democratic activities.
What has Kosovo got to do with Israel ?
 

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As long as they're buying the amount of arms they're buying don't hold your breath for any change.
Oil has little to do with Western support for KSA, its mostly about arms & the fact they are not Iran (my enemy enemy). In 2014 KSA became the world biggest importer of arms (€6.5bn), the US has 50% of the world arms industry so that is a hell of a lot of jobs. France & the UK companies also has huge arms deals with KSA.
 

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not a problem, how else can the Americans justify their military spending.

Their allies create the monsters and the Americans "deal" with them. A win/win situation.

The same allies are bombing Yemenis to pieces whilst backing an undemocratic regime in Bahrain
 

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The US-Saudi connection is one thing; the response of every other country to Wahhabist madrassas is another. They should not be tolerated.
 

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The World Reaps What the Saudis Sow - NYTimes.com
By THE EDITORIAL BOARD
MAY 27, 2016
Saudi Arabia has frustrated American policy makers for years. Ostensibly a critical ally, sheltered from its enemies by American arms and aid, the kingdom has spent untold millions promoting Wahhabism, the radical form of Sunni Islam that inspired the 9/11 hijackers and that now inflames the Islamic State.

The latest chapter in this long, sorrowful history involves tiny Kosovo. With a population of only 1.8 million people, Kosovo has sent more of its young people per capita than any other country to fight and die in Iraq and Syria.
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‘We Misled You’: How the Saudis Are Coming Clean on Funding Terrorism - POLITICO Magazine

In the past, when we raised the issue of funding Islamic extremists with the Saudis, all we got were denials. This time, in the course of meetings with King Salman, Crown Prince Nayef, Deputy Crown Mohammad Bin Salman and several ministers, one top Saudi official admitted to me, “We misled you.”

But over time, the Saudis say, their support for extremism turned on them, metastasizing into a serious threat to the Kingdom and to the West. They had created a monster that had begun to devour them. “We did not own up to it after 9/11 because we feared you would abandon or treat us as the enemy,” the Saudi senior official conceded. “And we were in denial.”
about the author:-

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zalmay_Khalilzad
 

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They reap tens of billions from gullible fools travelling every year to see what has been described as 'Disneyland for the rich'.

Are Construction Projects Turning Mecca Into Disney? - CityLab

A fake wonderland of shopping and tacky looking skyscrapers where the Saudis actively seek out any old building for destruction (like their ISIS friends). Tens of billions the regime rakes in and a good amount of that money then finds it's way into the hands of ISIS and other terror groups who use it to turn Muslim countries into dark age "5itholes. So Muslims by going to Saudi and giving them your money and making them more rich and powerful - you reap what you sow. Wahhabism is now the dominant form of Islam in the world today because of what you do.
 

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Are Construction Projects Turning Mecca Into Disney? - CityLab

At least you can have a laugh in Disneyland (not to mention a hot dog). We're lucky they won't let us infidels into that kip. I'd prefer a week in Detroit in a cardboard box in January to one in Mecca in a 5 Star hotel.

Seems a perfectly respectable author. Are you saying because he is Muslim we can't hear his opinion?
I don't think he's saying anything of the sort.
 
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Are Construction Projects Turning Mecca Into Disney? - CityLab

At least you can have a laugh in Disneyland (not to mention a hot dog). We're lucky they won't let us infidels into that kip. I'd prefer a week in Detroit in a cardboard box in January to one in Mecca in a 5 Star hotel.
That's the thing, we don't have to go to Mecca to see Mecca, it's similar to Western capitalist cities in almost every way. The closeness of Wahhabism to the materialist West despite the fact that they advertise themselves as the most 'pure' most close to the 7thC founder, most hardcore form of Muslim there is. Yet Sufi spiritualist Islam to me seems to be the form of Islam most different to the modern day capitalist experience - it is mystical and nuanced and more difficult to be initiated into unlike Wahhabism which is brutal and crude and base, simple and black and white. Wahhabism is like Protestantism, it is Wallmart Islam and it is programmed to expand.
 

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As opposed to Catholicism? As I recall the Spanish, Portugese and French Empires were Catholic ones and the the Russian Empire certainly wasn't a Protestant one. And Islamic expansionism well predates the rise of Wa'habism.
 


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