Saudi Crown Prince visited Israel.

gerhard dengler

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Zerohedge is running the headline that apparently last week Saudi Crown Prince Mohammad bin Salman visited Israel
last week.
Allegedly this visit was made in secret, but the visit has been disclosed by an unidentified intelligence officer
in the United Arab Emirates.

This disclose, if true, potentially carries a lot of consequences.

Another irony of this disclosure is that it comes on the day of the 16th anniversary of the 9/11 attacks in the USA.

Breaking News of Saudi Crown Prince's "Secret" Visit To Israel Brings Embassy Scramble | Zero Hedge
 


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... This disclose, if true, potentially carries a lot of consequences ...
If it's true it's an ominous development.

It would be reminiscent of the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact.



They'd be ganging up against Iran and scheming to drag the US in alongside them.

Let's hope that it's Fake News and this thread is going to the Zoo.
 

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I agree that if this disclosure is proven to be true then all sort of ramifications could entail.

The Zerohedge article links the disclosure of the visit today, to the words uttered by the Netanyahu last week about there being unprecedented levels of co-operation between his country and the Arabs.
 

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"Apparently" "Allegedly" "If true" "Potentially". The more caveats around a story, the more reliable it is...
 

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havnt they heard of Video conferencing?
 

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Our favourite war criminals like Assad, Putin, Rouhani
( and former ones like Arafat, Saddam and Gaddafi )
can and could meet whoever they liked - and anti Semites
didn't get their knickers in a twist!!:lol:
 

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I agree that if this disclosure is proven to be true then all sort of ramifications could entail.

The Zerohedge article links the disclosure of the visit today, to the words uttered by the Netanyahu last week about there being unprecedented levels of co-operation between his country and the Arabs.
You lost me at "Zerohedge" ... petunia
 

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I fear Mr Grouser is correct

It is ominous if the two most dangerous regimes in the ME are getting together

It may signify more war and chaos in our world
 

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To allow IDF planes to overfly SA on their way to Iran and back

But what will be the pound of flesh in return?????????
 

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Israel Radio reported an important visitor from the Gulf days ago. Arab media began speculating that it was the Crown Prince. That seems a bit unlikely.

That said, Israel needs to have the best relationship possible with the Saudis, short of an entangling alliance.

The problem with many critics of Saudi Arabia - who would have us cut off all relations or even team up with Iran against them - is that there are far worse people than the Saudi royals waiting in the wings over there. People forget that Islamists frequently preach against the House of Saud for being too modernising. These people tried to take over the Grand Mosque in Mecca in 1979. From then on the rulers of Saudi Arabia have had to bolster their Islamist credentials by promoting Wahabbi ideology. This is never addressed by the anti-Saudi crowd.
 

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Israel Radio reported an important visitor from the Gulf days ago. Arab media began speculating that it was the Crown Prince. That seems a bit unlikely.

That said, Israel needs to have the best relationship possible with the Saudis, short of an entangling alliance.

The problem with many critics of Saudi Arabia - who would have us cut off all relations or even team up with Iran against them - is that there are far worse people than the Saudi royals waiting in the wings over there. People forget that Islamists frequently preach against the House of Saud for being too modernising. These people tried to take over the Grand Mosque in Mecca in 1979. From then on the rulers of Saudi Arabia have had to bolster their Islamist credentials by promoting Wahabbi ideology. This is never addressed by the anti-Saudi crowd.
This post looks like a defense of the odious Saudi regime imo.
 

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I agree that if this disclosure is proven to be true then all sort of ramifications could entail.

The Zerohedge article links the disclosure of the visit today, to the words uttered by the Netanyahu last week about there being unprecedented levels of co-operation between his country and the Arabs.
From April

[h=1]Israel develops new ties with Saudi Arabia and other Gulf states[/h] April 19, 2017 · 9:00 PM EDT
Israel and Saudi Arabia have no diplomatic relations. And yet, recently, Saudi officials have been willing to meet Israeli officials publicly. General Yakov Amidror, a former senior advisor to Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, and former Saudi intelligence chief Prince Turki al-Feisal might have seemed an odd pair when they met publicly at the Washington Institute in Washington, D.C. last year.


According to Amidror, al-Feisal said once Israel reaches an agreement with the Palestinians, “together we can change the Middle East.” He added, “There is nothing that can stop the combination of Israeli money and the Saudi mind.”
Saudi Arabia and other Gulf States share common goals with Israel, one of which is developing new energy, water, and agricultural technology. In 2015, Israel opened its first diplomatic mission in the United Arab Emirates, and there are extensive business ties between Israel and Gulf countries valued at hundreds of millions of dollars.
Israel and the Gulf States also share common enemies: ISIS and Iran. According to Dan Diker, head of the project for counter-political warfare at the Jerusalem Center for Public Affairs, the threat of a nuclear Iran and the Islamic Republic’s terror proxies around the Middle East are particularly worrisome for the Gulf States.

https://www.pri.org/stories/2017-04-19/israel-develops-new-ties-saudi-arabia-and-other-gulf-states
 

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Israel Radio reported an important visitor from the Gulf days ago. Arab media began speculating that it was the Crown Prince. That seems a bit unlikely.

That said, Israel needs to have the best relationship possible with the Saudis, short of an entangling alliance.

The problem with many critics of Saudi Arabia - who would have us cut off all relations or even team up with Iran against them - is that there are far worse people than the Saudi royals waiting in the wings over there. People forget that Islamists frequently preach against the House of Saud for being too modernising. These people tried to take over the Grand Mosque in Mecca in 1979. From then on the rulers of Saudi Arabia have had to bolster their Islamist credentials by promoting Wahabbi ideology. This is never addressed by the anti-Saudi crowd.
This is an important perspective and I've heard it on occasion over the years. It's that the House of al-Saud isn't a bulwark against a tide of western-style liberalism that's ready to sweep the Wahhabi Kingdom; rather that they're a bulwark against a strain of drooling-at-the-mouth, psycho-Islamism that would drag Saudi Arabia and much of the Middle East back to societal standards that would have been considered harsh even in the 7th century.
 

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This is an important perspective and I've heard it on occasion over the years. It's that the House of al-Saud isn't a bulwark against a tide of western-style liberalism that's ready to sweep the Wahhabi Kingdom; rather that they're a bulwark against a strain of drooling-at-the-mouth, psycho-Islamism that would drag Saudi Arabia and much of the Middle East back to societal standards that would have been considered harsh even in the 7th century.
Bingo. Look at the circumstances of the Ikhwan Revolt against Ibn Saud in the 1920's, as well as the Grand Mosque Seizure in 1979 (also by a group known as the Ikhwan) and the subsequent reaction from the House of Saud.
 


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