Scandinavia - our new gallant allies in Europe?

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After the UK's departure, we will need to build new national alliances to pursue our political objectives, and the northern member states seem the best ideological fit. Sweden, Denmark and Finland traditionally strike a balance between commitment to the Union and maintenance of national sovereignty, and most closely follow Ireland in terms of economic liberalism. Together with Holland, such a "Northern Bloc" could serve as an effective diplomatic counterweight against the "Big Four".
 


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I have a lot of respect and admiration for the Scandinavian nations but I have a lot of contempt for the Swedish political Establishment for foisting multiculturalism and radical feminism on their populations - and for trying to export these ideas to other countries like Ireland.

Even so I think the non-Euro Scandinavian members could be part of a political alliance against tax harmonisation in the EU (though Im not sure Swedish Socialists would support us on that), while Poland, Hungary and the Baltic states could be allies on that issue too.
 

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I have a lot of respect and admiration for the Scandinavian nations but I have a lot of contempt for the Swedish political Establishment for foisting multiculturalism and radical feminism on their populations - and for trying to export these ideas to other countries like Ireland.
So they are like Google. Neo liberalism is everywhere.
 

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After the UK's departure, we will need to build new national alliances to pursue our political objectives, and the northern member states seem the best ideological fit. Sweden, Denmark and Finland traditionally strike a balance between commitment to the Union and maintenance of national sovereignty, and most closely follow Ireland in terms of economic liberalism. Together with Holland, such a "Northern Bloc" could serve as an effective diplomatic counterweight against the "Big Four".
Sweden, a country whose establishment have betrayed their national sovereignty in as effective a manner as Petain and Vichy France. I hope that is not an example of what is being suggested.
 

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After the UK's departure, we will need to build new national alliances to pursue our political objectives, and the northern member states seem the best ideological fit. Sweden, Denmark and Finland traditionally strike a balance between commitment to the Union and maintenance of national sovereignty, and most closely follow Ireland in terms of economic liberalism. Together with Holland, such a "Northern Bloc" could serve as an effective diplomatic counterweight against the "Big Four".
You are surely on the wind-up here?
Sweden has a death wish with mass-migration from Islamic countries. And they're turning themselves into a quasi-dictatorship with all the spinning, restriction, occlusion and redesignation of stats on migrant rape and other crimes.

They made a stupid, hubristic mistake with their pretensions to being a humanitarian superpower, and they doubled down with lies to conceal the consequences.

Align with them? :shock:
 

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Were the original gallant allies those from 1916? The Turks who slaughtered the Armenians, The Hungarians who strung up Serbian civilians until they ran out of gallows and the Germans who sacked Brussels and Liege?

To be fair to the Swedes, they're not in that league lately, are they?
 

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After the UK's departure, we will need to build new national alliances to pursue our political objectives, and the northern member states seem the best ideological fit. Sweden, Denmark and Finland traditionally strike a balance between commitment to the Union and maintenance of national sovereignty, and most closely follow Ireland in terms of economic liberalism. Together with Holland, such a "Northern Bloc" could serve as an effective diplomatic counterweight against the "Big Four".
Our natural allies in the EU never included the UK - we have rarely voted on the same side as them in a dispute. Its a complete myth that Ireland and the UK ever shared interests in the EU.

We always had more in common with other small states. We still do.
 

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Unless you suppose their privilege is a factor.

Still, the thread is an honest one and the state needs allies against a German and french carvenip or German obstinacy since the idea Germany and France can agree reforms is fanciful it appears.
 

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Were the original gallant allies those from 1916? The Turks who slaughtered the Armenians, The Hungarians who strung up Serbian civilians until they ran out of gallows and the Germans who sacked Brussels and Liege?

To be fair to the Swedes, they're not in that league lately, are they?
They'd gladly take them in, though. That's the point.
 

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The Swedes say that their defence policy is a white flag and an answer machine.
 

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The Swedes say that their defence policy is a white flag and an answer machine.
Sweden has taken in thousands of males of military age.

You think that's a joke?

You ever hear tell of Charles 12th?

Be warned! Latvia is looking east but it shy be looking north west.
 

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Were the original gallant allies those from 1916? The Turks who slaughtered the Armenians, The Hungarians who strung up Serbian civilians until they ran out of gallows and the Germans who sacked Brussels and Liege?

To be fair to the Swedes, they're not in that league lately, are they?
The Swedes as allies, are as useful as a fart in a space suit.

Look at Malmo's currently declining Jewish population. Sweden is SFA use to anybody as an "ally" in anything.

Sweden cannot even stand up for itself, let alone somebody else.
 
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Once you're in the Euro the EU are your overlords.
 

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I'd lean more towards eastern European countries.
 

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The country with whom we have the most in common is Belgium.

Expensive state bureacracy. Lots of funny accounting. Peados in high places. A flourishing location for Jihadis to operate. A political establishment that is loyal to the nEU empire down to the last corner of their pay packet.

Cops that have no clue what is going on. And when they find out, they do SFA about it, anyway.

And debt. Massive amounts of debt.

We even had round somebody pissed out his brains in charge for much of the last decade.



In fact we had an entire cabinet of them.
 
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I'd like to see a Hiberno-Iberian alliance. A solid Catholic alliance-great weather, food and people. Let those Northern heretics ruin their own nations.
 

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Sounds like a good idea. The EU is dominated right now by neoliberals and ultra imperialists. That needs to be balanced.
 

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I'd like to see a Hiberno-Iberian alliance. A solid Catholic alliance-great weather, food and people. Let those Northern heretics ruin their own nations.
Oh, No. Well run countries like Spain and Portugal would be better off without any association with such a corrupt place that a business man who bribes a politician is allowed to buy half the media, bribe his way into owning a prominent building in the largest university, and throw money at "bread and circuses" to keep the serfs distracted.

I would stick with Belgium. It operates at our level of coverups, and corruption.

Spain and Portugal are well run, transparent places compared to here.

And we have SF leading the charge to turn us into a socialist hellhole like Wallonia, to look forward to.
 


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