I don't think so. The UK was formed by the Union of Scottish, English and then Irish Kingdoms. Wales was a principality of England rather than a kingdom or a nation in its own right. NI has even less status and is/was merely a province.The United Kingdom would continue to exist even if Scotland left it. It continued to exist after Ireland left it.
I'm from Edinburgh and my mrs is from Monaghan, so I'm though the north a fair bit. Let me tell you even the mere mention of a union between NI and Scotland sends a shiver down my spine, and that's coming from a SNP voting Scotsman who has a genuine affection for NI.The interesting thing for unionism is whether they would try to go it alone, or develop a union with Edinburgh.
Good luck with it.AberdeenFC said:As stated previously, no way should Scotland consider a re-union with NI post break up of UK. (with you Matador on that my friend).
I know of no Scots Nationalist who would support such a move, despite effection for NI & RoI. The cause of a united Ireland on whatever grounds that can be made acceptable to the majority on the whole Island is a more acceptable position for Scots Nationalists - but our sole concern is Scotland's rightful independence and reinstatement as a sovereign nation state again.
Of those options I think the former would be more likely. The basis for a possible future northern referendum on Irish unification has already been laid. Unionists could beat nationalists to the punch by using the same agreed mechanism to avoid unification, by voting for independance. Old arguments against independance like 'Northern Ireland is economically dependant/unviable" no longer hold water. Nationalists rather smug crowing about the inevitability of Irish unification via referendum have blinded them to the possible danger. Poisen chalice?matador said:Let's make this clear, independence or integration with RoI are by far the most likely options for NI post Scottish split.
We covered this somewhere else. The protestant population of NI is about 40% Presbyterians. This is the element with scots links. Concentrated in Antrim and N down. This is the only area with even the remotest possibility of a link to Scotland. These scots-presbs comprise about 6% of the population of Ireland. Any attempt at any kind of link whatever to Scotland beyond good neighbourliness would result in immediate civil war in Ireland and severe disorder in the west of Scotland. Dont forget the catholics in this area would have to be shifted.Insanity. Elvis winning the derby on Shergar type of thing.Kf said:The independence of scotland would be the end of Britain and a not unlikely scenairo is the break up of all its competent parts with a rise in English Nationalism leading to a desire to jettison parts of Britain that they see themselves paying for. The impact on NI could be devasting with the likely end result repartition. The interesting thing for unionism is whether they would try to go it alone, or develop a union with Edinburgh.
A intesresting comparsion is Yugoslavia in the early 90's and I don't know of a single politican, diplomat, journalist or commentator who could have predicted the bloody outcome.
Off topic a little. Quiz. Which is the only US State to operate a form of Code Napoleon as its legal system?AberdeenFC said:Forest:
Scottish Law is historical and pre-dates the union. Like Church, this was one of the Scottish commissioners pre-conditions to the 1707 union act being signed. Hence, its continued existence post union.
The difference from English common law, is that Scottish law is based upon principles, it has a different judicial set up also. Like Sherriff, courts, advocates etc.. Which do not exist in the English system.
English (& Welsh for that matter) law, is based up case law and set precedents. Scottish law is more like the models in Europe, Scandinavia, etc.
E.g. Not Proven is a verdict that can carry in Scottish law - doesn't exist in English.
House purchasing is also different. Closed bids are common in Scotland, not the norm in England etc. etc.
The Scottish Parliament has abolished tuition fees for students and provides more healthcare provision for the elderly etc..