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security at dublin airport way over the top


dancl2000

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The security line in Dublin airport is one of the slowest and one of the strictest in europe. Most airports in Europe are not this strict, e.g. most of the time it doesnt matter if you dont take out your wash bag. the idea of a "security bag" that you can buy for eur2 to put your stuff in (can someone explain how that bag is related to security ??)

I've just done a round trip to Ireland, on the way in my bag had exactly the same contents. indeed, i've been through a lot of airports with the same contents. on the way back out dublin airport security confiscated soap, some screen cleaner.. the other airports either didnt see this stuff or didnt care about it, it was all hand luggage on the way over too

I travel a fair amount, in the last 12 months I've been through airports in rome, paris, barcelona, stockholm, ottawa, berlin, lyon, nice, marseilles, brussels, charlerloi, milan, poznan, aghero. Dublin & London are by far the most annoying and anal airport security in this list

So some quick questions
- why does dublin airport security have to be stricter / more anal than most other european airports ?
- does anyone believe confiscating soap does anything to help airport security ?
- of all the wash items confiscated in the name of security, how many of them turned out to be dangerous ? (e.g. how can soap be used to threaten people on the plane)
- why is my nivea face wash not dangerous when i get on a plane in france but has to be confiscated when i get on the same plane going in the other direction ?
- if anyone really believes face soap is dangerous then why are they so nonchalant about throwing it in the trash when they confiscate it (surely anything confiscated in the name of security should be handled carefully ??)
- do airports have a commercial interest to maintain anal airport security, even if it doesnt achieve much real security, so they can charge eur3 for a bottle of water
 

ruserious

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To be honest, I'd wait an extra hour in line just to ensure there was no Jihad Jim coming on the plane with me.
 
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So far as I know, we have to adopt US standards in order to fly there.

We're probably more zealous about applying those standards than other countries.
 

Iphonista

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It had to be beefed up because it failed an audit recently. If you think it's slow, you should try Rome or Istanbul!
 

Upper Chamber

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Dublin is normally fairly sensible but thorough. Heathrow is a demonstration of moronic pedantism.
 

Monday Monday

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Dublin is normally fairly sensible but thorough. Heathrow is a demonstration of moronic pedantism.
Dublin is bad enough but UK airports take the biscuit.

In the last 12 months I have had a row with a security gimp because my clear plastic bag was not the right type of clear plastic bag and, in Heathrow, I watched in horrified fascination while a security woman squeezed out my toothpaste and sniffed it. (PS that is not a euphemism for anything).

The biggest problem with Dublin is that they have 12 scanners and only staff 2 of them, the staff and procedures are all right.
 
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crossman

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Dublin is thorough but reasonable. You should try Boston or Rome.
 
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I was in 2 airports over the summer , a small regional French one where they had a helpful sign saying no Hand Granades permitted on board. Glasgow airport on the other hand singled a 9 year old boy out of the line who was part of a sports group and made him leave the Q because his plastic bag was too big, it nearly started a riot in the line.
 

Sync

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It had to be beefed up because it failed an audit recently. If you think it's slow, you should try Rome or Istanbul!
The audit failures didn't relate to baggage handling though.

It's really not significantly better or worse than anywhere else. Charging for the bag isn't something I remember seeing elsewhere. It's not the DAA's fault that rules around liquids are in place. They enforce them pretty reasonably in my runins with them.

Personally I find Paris with it's 2 scanners more arduous. Rome and Madrid are pretty nightmarish as well.

As Mondays mentioned, the issue in Dublin is the underuse of available scanners.
 

firefly123

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Dublin is grand most of the time. Staff friendly as long as you are and once through its a fairly pleasant place without much walking (except pier D).
I guess since we have US pre clearance in Dublin ( which is great) we have to be somewhat stricter. At the end of the day it's a minor inconvenience although I do find it daft that you can bring ten 100ml containers on but not one 200 ml one.
Anyway these lads will soon sort it all out.

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Spanner Island

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The security line in Dublin airport is one of the slowest and one of the strictest in europe. Most airports in Europe are not this strict, e.g. most of the time it doesnt matter if you dont take out your wash bag. the idea of a "security bag" that you can buy for eur2 to put your stuff in (can someone explain how that bag is related to security ??)
That particular charge is a scam and a rip off by the DAA. At Heathrow those bags are available for free as they should be.

I've just done a round trip to Ireland, on the way in my bag had exactly the same contents. indeed, i've been through a lot of airports with the same contents. on the way back out dublin airport security confiscated soap, some screen cleaner.. the other airports either didnt see this stuff or didnt care about it, it was all hand luggage on the way over too

I travel a fair amount, in the last 12 months I've been through airports in rome, paris, barcelona, stockholm, ottawa, berlin, lyon, nice, marseilles, brussels, charlerloi, milan, poznan, aghero. Dublin & London are by far the most annoying and anal airport security in this list
It could be argued that the security at those other airports is crap...

So some quick questions
- why does dublin airport security have to be stricter / more anal than most other european airports ?
It's probably partly to do with our terrorism legacy. Dublin airport used to have metal detectors and bag searches at the front door of the terminal back in the day...

More recently Dublin airport actually failed a security test carried out by some official body. They have since rectified it.

- does anyone believe confiscating soap does anything to help airport security ?
Soap? no... but then I suppose it's better to be safe then sorry... and I guess plastic explosives or semtex etc. could be molded into any shape...

- of all the wash items confiscated in the name of security, how many of them turned out to be dangerous ? (e.g. how can soap be used to threaten people on the plane)
See above...

- why is my nivea face wash not dangerous when i get on a plane in france but has to be confiscated when i get on the same plane going in the other direction ?
Dunno... perhaps it was in a container larger than 50mls... Nothing larger than 50 mls is allowed through AFAIK.

- if anyone really believes face soap is dangerous then why are they so nonchalant about throwing it in the trash when they confiscate it (surely anything confiscated in the name of security should be handled carefully ??)
Not really... AFAIK terrorists don't tend to bring fully constructed bombs onto planes... More likely are seperate components which they then assemble in the aircraft toilet etc.

- do airports have a commercial interest to maintain anal airport security, even if it doesnt achieve much real security, so they can charge eur3 for a bottle of water
Perhaps there's a grain of truth in that... although I suspect most of the time they're just trying to make flying safer...
 

Little_Korean

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Dublin airport's a pussy cat in regards to security measures. I've been through waaaaay worse.

Both Parisian airports, Beauvais and Charles De Gaulle, are among the worse airports I;ve been in, in the general sense.
 

farnaby

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Dublin is bad (Terminal 1 is worse than terminal 2) but UK airports take the biscuit.

In the last 12 months I have had a row with a security gimp because my clear plastic bag was not the right type of clear plastic bag and, in Heathrow, I watched in horrified fascination while a security woman squeezed out my toothpaste and sniffed it. (PS that is not a euphemism for anything).

The biggest problem with Dublin is that they have 12 scanners and only staff 2 of them, the staff and procedures are all right.
Agree with all that. I travel regularly to Germany and find their airport security worse than Dublin - I had the plastic bag issue there as well. Also the passengers are worse! Travellers through Dublin seem very aware of the procedures which helps long queues go quite quickly; in Germany I've been in short queues that take ages due to people going excrutiatingly slow, having literally bags full of liquids >100mls, wearing clothes that seem to be lined with metal and I even saw a case of a woman trying to get through passport control with no photo id.
 

Shqiptar

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Dublin is bad enough but UK airports take the biscuit.

In the last 12 months I have had a row with a security gimp because my clear plastic bag was not the right type of clear plastic bag and, in Heathrow, I watched in horrified fascination while a security woman squeezed out my toothpaste and sniffed it. (PS that is not a euphemism for anything).

The biggest problem with Dublin is that they have 12 scanners and only staff 2 of them, the staff and procedures are all right.
Perhaps I'm getting the wrong end of the stick. Why would you want to bring toothpaste in your hand luggage?
 

nationalsday

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The security line in Dublin airport is one of the slowest and one of the strictest in europe. Most airports in Europe are not this strict, e.g. most of the time it doesnt matter if you dont take out your wash bag. the idea of a "security bag" that you can buy for eur2 to put your stuff in (can someone explain how that bag is related to security ??)

I've just done a round trip to Ireland, on the way in my bag had exactly the same contents. indeed, i've been through a lot of airports with the same contents. on the way back out dublin airport security confiscated soap, some screen cleaner.. the other airports either didnt see this stuff or didnt care about it, it was all hand luggage on the way over too

I travel a fair amount, in the last 12 months I've been through airports in rome, paris, barcelona, stockholm, ottawa, berlin, lyon, nice, marseilles, brussels, charlerloi, milan, poznan, aghero. Dublin & London are by far the most annoying and anal airport security in this list

So some quick questions
- why does dublin airport security have to be stricter / more anal than most other european airports ?
- does anyone believe confiscating soap does anything to help airport security ?
- of all the wash items confiscated in the name of security, how many of them turned out to be dangerous ? (e.g. how can soap be used to threaten people on the plane)
- why is my nivea face wash not dangerous when i get on a plane in france but has to be confiscated when i get on the same plane going in the other direction ?
- if anyone really believes face soap is dangerous then why are they so nonchalant about throwing it in the trash when they confiscate it (surely anything confiscated in the name of security should be handled carefully ??)
- do airports have a commercial interest to maintain anal airport security, even if it doesnt achieve much real security, so they can charge eur3 for a bottle of water
That sounds kind of rude
 

Household_charged

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Dublin Airport is mild compared to other airports.

I had a thundering b1tch in Manchester Airport confiscate my toiletries because there was a small hole in the re-sealable bag. She then offered me my toiletries back if I bought one of the bags for £1, without any way to check if I actually used it. She claimed my bag had to be sealed when the toiletries passed through the x-ray machine. BS

I have had toothpaste taken off me because it was in a 125ml tube.
I have had 10ml of medicinal shampoo taken off me because it was in a an otherwise empty 125ml bottle. (And then he had the cheek to tell me to buy some more in the pharmacy inside security)

I have forgotten, many times, to take my toiletries out of my bags, without problem.

Some of the security staff are uniform-nazis, once they have the uniform on the power goes to their heads.
I have had different security alerts while wearing the same clothes, sometimes the scanner will go off, sometimes it will not.
I have metal bracelets which never set off alarms yet have enough metal to form a weapon. Never a problem wearing them.
Security take scissors and nail clippers off passengers, despite the same items being for sale inside security.
Security take bottles and cans of "liquids" off passengers because they are a security risk, yet pass them on to charities and "otherwise dispose of them" without any harm coming to anyone. If they are a security risk they should be destroyed on the spot.
 

FrankSpeaks

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Perhaps I'm getting the wrong end of the stick. Why would you want to bring toothpaste in your hand luggage?
Maybe they only had hand luggage, staying on an overnight does not require checked in baggage.
 
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