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Selling the Nation's historical documents for personal gain, just how low can FFers go?




Deep Blue

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Looking forward to seeing that sketch on 'The Savage Eye'....


And why would we be surprised ? They've already sold out the whole country from under us, this is just the paperwork.

Now you'd be surprised if you learned that Abe Lincoln had sold The Gettysburg Address...
 
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The Field Marshal

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How important is this yoke? It's only a copy and who is going to pay 3000 plus for it? I have seen such like signed papers in museums and my eyes glaze over with boredom. Having said that I suppose it has some limited historical value and since it's owner appears to be a well heeled and highly state pensioned politician the auction of same might raise questions. But then again perhaps he really needs the money. It is his personal property to do with as he pleases. Either way a storm In a teacuP
 
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Howya

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Does the copy of the Belfast Agreement not belong to the State? Andrews was there in his capacity representing Ireland, therefore all official papers belong to the nation. If he was selling off personal notes etc then maybe a different story. These papers should be placed in the National Archives.
 

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How important is this yoke? It's only a copy and who is going to pay 3000 plus for it? I have seen such like signed papers in museums and my eyes glaze over with boredom. Having said that I suppose it has some limited historical value and since it's owner appears to be a well heeled and highly state pensioned politician the auction of same might raise questions. But then again perhaps he really needs the money. It is his personal property to do with as he pleases. Either way a storm In a teacuP
Do you only like looking at the skeletons and nudey paintings ;)
 

Clanrickard

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How important is this yoke? It's only a copy and who is going to pay 3000 plus for it? I have seen such like signed papers in museums and my eyes glaze over with boredom.

Stupidity is an elemental force for which no earthquake is a match.
Karl Kraus
 

Marcos the black

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How does Andrews "own" this document? How did that happen?
 

VoteFFno1

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What do the Gardai have to say about this?
 

Marcos the black

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What do the Gardai have to say about this?
Has an official complaint been lodged? Sounds like something you could do.... You know, seeing as how ye are FF Nua now not the old FF.
 

ruserious

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Like a soldier does not own his uniform, I have a feeling the State owns this document.
 

Expose the lot of them

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Yet another reminder, if such were needed, of what an ignorant, hungry shower the ffers are. According to the article

"A spokesman for Whyte’s auctioneers and valuers said the company had been “sworn to secrecy” about the identity of the document’s owner but The Irish Times has established that it belongs to Mr Andrews. He declined to comment yesterday.". Now why would that be? A sense of shame? Unlikely..

I am of the opinion that this document belongs to the Nation, however, I would expect Whyte's to establish that the seller owns the document and is entitled to sell it.

"The document is guiding at €3,000-€5,000 and is described by Whyte’s as “of extreme scarcity” and “an excellent opportunity to acquire one of Ireland’s most historically important documents”".

Is he really that short of money? with his pension I would have thought he would hand on to it for a few more years until it is likely to command a higher price.
 

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Does anyone remember how much this guy was paid for his "service" as chairman of the Irish Red Cross?
 

The Field Marshal

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Stupidity is an elemental force for which no earthquake is a match.
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If I had the money I would purchase this document. I would then destroy it. Then there would be one less piece of useless paper on the planet and I would have had the satisfaction of deeply annoying petty historians .
 

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I'm delighted to see that this this thread has been opened.

I didn't think that I could despise the arrogant, loathsome, mercenary fraud David Andrews any more - a man who had the nerve to seek a sizable honorarium for his time as Chair of the Irish Red Cross - but he's just shown us all that, if you scrape off the mud and grime at the bottom of the Andrews' family septic tank, you'll find a lower level made up of pure sh1t.
 
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Mushroom

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Does anyone remember how much this guy was paid for his "service" as chairman of the Irish Red Cross?
I would really love to tell you. Instead, let me simply remind you that the Irish Red Cross is one of the very few taxpayer-funded (partially) bodies that are still not covered by the Freedom of Information Act.
 

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