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Senator John Crown: Opus Dei lobbying against abortion reform


seabhcan

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Opus Dei accused of lobbying to prevent Irish abortion reform | World news | The Guardian

An interesting turn of events:

"John Crown, a leading cancer specialist and member of parliament, accused the powerful organisation of trying to exercise influence on the medical profession and politicians to prevent limited abortion being made legal for the first time in Ireland.

The only physician on the parliamentary subcommittee exploring the abortion question at present, Crown said he believed Opus Dei was "a major player" in the campaign to thwart legislation that would allow for abortion when a mother's life was at risk."

"We have several examples in history where leaders of this country asked if people should state their allegiance. Garret Fitzgerald [a former taoiseach] once famously asked his cabinet to inform him if they were members of secret organisations, which I think is not a bad idea at all for the whole of the Oireachtas."
 

captainwillard

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Opus Dei accused of lobbying to prevent Irish abortion reform | World news | The Guardian

An interesting turn of events:

"John Crown, a leading cancer specialist and member of parliament, accused the powerful organisation of trying to exercise influence on the medical profession and politicians to prevent limited abortion being made legal for the first time in Ireland.

The only physician on the parliamentary subcommittee exploring the abortion question at present, Crown said he believed Opus Dei was "a major player" in the campaign to thwart legislation that would allow for abortion when a mother's life was at risk."
By abortion reform, you must surely mean the murder of an unborn child. Yes, i am glad they are lobbying, if indeed this is the correct word.
 

borntorum

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What's it to the Guardian? Are they trying to influence internal Irish politics as well?
 

wombat

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"John Crown,..... and member of parliament,
Technically correct but certainly giving him more authority than he has earned:lol:
 

captainwillard

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Can i take it from the response that posters are happy that TDs elected by the people are members of secret organisations who direct their activities? Why have democracy at all?

Directed or lobbied? Make up your mind for goodness sake.
 

seanmoylantd

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Linky linky Dr John Crown? Source? Names? Who? Do you know them? Have they written to you on headed paper?
 

wombat

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Can i take it from the response that posters are happy that TDs elected by the people are members of secret organisations who direct their activities? Why have democracy at all?
Posters may not be happy but TDs are elected by the people, not by a group of the well connected.
 

Toland

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So what if they are?
Do you not think it would be bad news for the anti-abortion cause if it became generally known that the purse strings are being pulled by an ultraconservative, deeply sexist, lay catholic group with strong historical associations to fascism?

Serious question
 

LDF

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Can i take it from the response that posters are happy that TDs elected by the people are members of secret organisations who direct their activities? Why have democracy at all?
Oh, is that what John Crown said? The headline states that he believes they are engaged in lobbying - an entirely legitimate activity any citizen can engage in.
 
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